“I lost so you must be a cheater”

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cafecheck
What if all this were random accusations of cheating. It’s so childish, so pathetic and so low. You don’t need this kind of brack from faceless (usually) strangers.

Another thing that happened recently, someone ran down the clock on a rematch - refusing to make a first move, because I didn’t respond to their “good game” after the previous game - a game that they won!

The maturity levels are falling badly.
cafecheck
That first sentence should have started “what is all this with…?”
socaldood

I love beating someone and they accuse me of cheating. Thats when u know u had a good game :peaceful

cafecheck
I admire that.
Fr3nchToastCrunch
cafecheck wrote:
That first sentence should have started “what is all this with…?”

You know there's an edit button right? Should be a pencil with a square

Phogn
They mad
basketstorm
XPGK99 wrote:

Kramnik: *Blunders even while cheating*

Opponent: *Notices Blunder*

Kramnik: "YoU sMaRtEr TeN mE sO u ChEaTeR"

Stop lying. First, Kramnik has NEVER EVER accused ANYONE. Second, opponent noticing a blunder usually isn't a reason for Kramnik to demand investigation/ask reasonable questions. Usually Kramnik considers lots of factors before expressing any suspicions.

KeSetoKaiba
basketstorm wrote:
XPGK99 wrote:

Kramnik: *Blunders even while cheating*

Opponent: *Notices Blunder*

Kramnik: "YoU sMaRtEr TeN mE sO u ChEaTeR"

Stop lying. First, Kramnik has NEVER EVER accused ANYONE. Second, opponent noticing a blunder usually isn't a reason for Kramnik to demand investigation/ask reasonable questions. Usually Kramnik considers lots of factors before expressing any suspicions.

Kramnik has accused people of cheating; at the very least he has accused GM Daniel Naroditsky and GM Hikaru Nakamura.

It is one thing to accuse GM Hans Niemann because he has a history of cheating in the past, but to accuse people without a history of cheating is an entirely different level of accusation.

KeSetoKaiba

One more video; this one only appeared in my recommended just now, but it is good too:

basketstorm
KeSetoKaiba wrote:
basketstorm wrote:
XPGK99 wrote:

Kramnik: *Blunders even while cheating*

Opponent: *Notices Blunder*

Kramnik: "YoU sMaRtEr TeN mE sO u ChEaTeR"

Stop lying. First, Kramnik has NEVER EVER accused ANYONE. Second, opponent noticing a blunder usually isn't a reason for Kramnik to demand investigation/ask reasonable questions. Usually Kramnik considers lots of factors before expressing any suspicions.

Kramnik has accused people of cheating; at the very least he has accused GM Daniel Naroditsky and GM Hikaru Nakamura.

It is one thing to accuse GM Hans Niemann because he has a history of cheating in the past, but to accuse people without a history of cheating is an entirely different level of accusation.

So you justify Niemann accusations because he admitted cheating in a couple of online non-prized events when he was a kid?

Now you share some vids, they aren't from Kramnik, they are from some likely biased youtubers.

Watch original videos and try finding at least ONE accusation. At least one. Kramnik, when speaking about Hikaru, when speaking about Naroditsky and you forgot Martinez - never accused them. He just pointed at some very interesting data and asked some quite reasonable questions. He showed some FACTS. But he didn't accuse. Watch every video carefully. It shouldn't take long, couple of weeks watching couple of hours per day and you'll make it. Do it and find at least one accusation. You will fail. And then I would kindly ask you to apologize.

KeSetoKaiba
basketstorm wrote:

...try finding at least ONE accusation. At least one. Kramnik, when speaking about Hikaru, when speaking about Naroditsky and you forgot Martinez - never accused them. He just pointed at some very interesting data and asked some quite reasonable questions. He showed some FACTS. But he didn't accuse...

Just watch the 3rd video timestamp 10:19 Kramnik is speaking himself and directly accusing Naroditsky of using an engine. Whether one believes the accusations or not is irrelevant; the fact of the matter is that Kramnik is accusing people of cheating.

As for the Hans Niemann case (which is old news by this point really), I stand by chess.com's 72-page report on the matter; it is clear Hans Niemann cheated online in many recent games. Did he cheat OTB though? That's less clear. Maybe he really did play fairly, but at least online, he wasn't always playing fairly: https://www.chess.com/blog/CHESScom/hans-niemann-report

KeSetoKaiba
JailhouseTaught wrote:
NERD FIGHT!!!!!!

Seriously? xD

NIVEK1000

Post #14----says the nerd-WANNABE...

basketstorm
KeSetoKaiba wrote:
basketstorm wrote:

...try finding at least ONE accusation. At least one. Kramnik, when speaking about Hikaru, when speaking about Naroditsky and you forgot Martinez - never accused them. He just pointed at some very interesting data and asked some quite reasonable questions. He showed some FACTS. But he didn't accuse...

Just watch the 3rd video timestamp 10:19 Kramnik is speaking himself and directly accusing Naroditsky of using an engine. Whether one believes the accusations or not is irrelevant; the fact of the matter is that Kramnik is accusing people of cheating.

As for the Hans Niemann case (which is old news by this point really), I stand by chess.com's 72-page report on the matter; it is clear Hans Niemann cheated online in many recent games. Did he cheat OTB though? That's less clear. Maybe he really did play fairly, but at least online, he wasn't always playing fairly: https://www.chess.com/blog/CHESScom/hans-niemann-report

I can't understand are you trolling me or what? Asking to watch 3rd video, what video? The one that you've posted? I told you go watch original videos from Kramnik channel. Anyway, Danya himself admitted that he was using an engine and Kramnik is referring to that in your 3rd video and you think that's an accusation? Stop lying, ok? Lying is not nice, do you know that or not? Stop being a liar. Or maybe you're just a victim of manipulations and refuse to use your own thinking? At the same time that silly Niemann report is FULL of accusations. This is such a hypocrisy from your side. Disgusting!

cafecheck
If Kramnik accused me of cheating, that would be far more interesting than the random accusations I bemoaned in my post.
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