IM Rosen or IM Levy GM norms

Which IM, Levy, or Rosen will become a GM first, if at all?

I dont know much about him, so Rosen.

It's interesting that their peak fide ratings are about the same. Their current fide ratings are about the same. Eric is about 2 years older than Levy (30 to 28). Levy has a coach that has helped 2 players become GMs but I don't know how good they were when he started coaching them. I don't know if Eric has a coach or is going solo.

It's a bit fun watching Levys journey. I didn't watch or follow his first 2 events back into tournament life but I watched the 3rd one in Spilimbergo Italy. It was a good show watching and listening to his coach comment on Levys games as they were happening live.

I think both have their advantages when it comes to who might get their title first. I feel like overall Rosen recovers from losses easier and cares less about how his games will effect his YouTube metrics, so he's less likely to take unnecessary risk for potentially more views later which likely leads to better results, at least across the board.

On the other hand, Levy has a massive supportive fan base and seems to be more determined to earn the GM title than Rosen. If my memory serves me correctly I think Rosen might have even mentioned that he'd love the GM title but is satisfied with IM.

Either way, good luck to both of them!

Lol fans have nothing to do with elo rating and how you fare in tournaments. Having to handle youtube is more of a hassle and will not allow one to train as much as he could.
Now...Levy has the potential but from what i've seen he seems to overthink because of stress.

Levy mid as heck. Don't know a lot about Rosen, but he's gotta beat Levy

Really? That same fan base motivates him to play his best chess, it's not a game changer all on its own but it's proven that a fan base or team backing you up causes better results, especially in mental health. And we all know that is a huge and undervalued part of chess.

To your point though, that can also cause him stress so maybe it is a nullfying factor 🤷‍♂️

I think having to record, edit, juggle all the work connected to streaming must be very distracting. Maybe he should hire somebody only during tournaments to help with a lot of it so he can focus more on chess. His coach was saying something about Levy doing streaming related work at midnight when he had an early game the next morning. He also mentioned sleep issues being a problem.

First off, it's not proven. Second, you're spewing nonsense here. Having a fanbase does NOTHING for chess masters. It's not like there's a crowd during matches.
And as DreamscapeHorizons stated, having to handle the business side of youtube content is a lot of work. Time spent that isn't used for training.

What would you know mr 700 elo lol

Both of them are extremely far away. Both of them are under 2400, the rating needs to be achieved to get an IM title. This means that they are considerably lower than they were in their peak, and half a world away from the required 2500.

My guess is that they both have very low chance. Levy's chance isn't exactly zero, but close enough. Eric isn't even trying, so in his case 0% is a fair assessment.

Eric's (currently 2374) peak rating was 2423 way back in May 2015 (9yrs & 2 mths ago) & Levy's rating (currently 2370) peaked at 2421 in Aug 2018 (6 yrs ago). They will both be 31 & 29 before this year's over. I don't know about Erics recent events but Levy in his 27 games back (since he's gotten a coach in May) has lost 2 games & won 13 with 11 draws against an average of 2309. That's just over 72%, I'm pretty sure that's gotta be around 2450-2470 range. And that's right now based on 3 events. He said after his last game that he's played 5 GMs since his return to tournaments & his record right now against the 5 GMs is 3 wins & 2 draws. Yeah, he had a string of draws & a loss against 2200 level players but it's the overall average that matters. I'm thinking there's a good chance for him to improve. Yes 2500+ is a long way especially with 3 norms to get but his performance rating isn't too far away based on 3 events.

The hardest part is getting the norms. The rating is going to go up eventually as they win matches against higher rated opponents.

What would you know Mr. 1200 elo LOL

You can disagree with me, I gave my opinion and you can feel free to have any opinion about that. But you gotta be respectful and it's a proven fact that a supportive base leads to better mental health which in chess is so important.

I was wondering about that too, about the fans & number of people watching his games live as they're being played. Was it a distraction OR..... a motivator to perform well? With all the subs he's got he gets a lot of viewers watching the games live, his coach mentioned the number but I can't remember it. It was a lot. It seems to me it would make him try harder because if he goofed off a few games everybody see's it live AND his coach is commenting live. He can't really get away with getting lazy. So I think all his fans are a net positive but I still think he should hire someone to travel to tournaments with him to do a lot of the streaming work so he can just do chess like most tournament players.

Your opinion is based on personal belief that has no base. Mine is based on evidence.
Time is limited in a day. Use your brain man.

And no, there's no proof. But please, do provide it if it exists

What evidence? I don't really care anyways I gave my opinion and you disagreed with it, good for you! That's what makes life interesting and worth living

Levy made a video discussing his first 3 events back in rated play. This dang video has 264,000 views in a single day.