To all Magnus's fans:
Could you state clearly, what chess ideas he put forward?
Is Magnus Carlsen Greatest Chess Player of all Times?
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For me , that position will always go to Garry Kasparov.
Has Fischer already been mentioned?
theproffesor wrote:
For me , that position will always go to Garry Kasparov.
Kasparov is a good choice but he is the past, next comes the future.
(The present is fleeting)
trysts wrote:
rooperi wrote:
clean your room get a job when I was your age... come back here, you little coward! this will hurt me more than it hurts you
trysts wrote:
Chess4001 wrote:
I'm also 13, people say I'm one of the best young players around
Parents will say anything
clean your room get a job when I was your age... come back here, you little coward! this will hurt me more than it hurts you
*Are these your cigarettes?
*Since when is 9:00pm, 2:00am?
*Did you go in the liquor cabinet?
"TURN IT DOWN!!!"
Too many variables to consider. The 'standing on the shoulder of giants' theme alone could rule out most players of the last 75 years. That said, there's some folks clearly at the top: Fischer, Kasparov (my pick), Capablanca all came up and I'd argue you could add a handful of others as well. Why not Morphy? It's one of those arguments that works better over drinks than as an absolute.
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:
theproffesor wrote:
For me , that position will always go to Garry Kasparov.
Kasparov is a good choice but he is the past, next comes the future.
(The present is fleeting)
It will take a damn good player to beat 2815 and I don't believe that player is alive yet.
Chess4001 wrote:
Magnus Carlsen is the best prodigy of all time, of course. I'm also 13, people say I'm one of the best young players around, but Magnus Carlsen, with 2400 or 2500 FIDE at my age, fails to be described by words. Even Chuck Norris wears Magnus Carlsen pajamas.
a 13 year kid over the chessboard is like a 13 year kid driving a truck.
diogens wrote:
fissionfowl wrote:
diogens wrote:
The best player ever is no doubt, who invented the game.
Why?
Because he had to explain the basics to his opponents. Do you now any Morphy, Capablanca, Fischer, Kasparov etc. who had to explain that to his challengers?
Well yeah, for example in http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1067831&kpage=2
Korchnoi had to ask if he could castle while his rook was attacked. Presumably Karpov told him.
I imagine it went something like this: "Comrade, if your rook is attacked, you may castle, yes. However, be advised your family is still under house arrest in Soviet Russia, and it is a nice family, it would be too bad if anything were to happen to them. Good luck in the rest of the game.
Oh, arbiter? What is the flavor of today's yogurt? Ah, cherry! So my next move is Bxc4!"
I have never understood why my king cannot move to a square "guarded" by an ememy piece which is absolutely pinned against his own king. It seems to me the pinned piece is not be a threat to my king.
Prayerman46 wrote:
I have never understood why my king cannot move to a square "guarded" by an ememy piece which is absolutely pinned against his own king. It seems to me the pinned piece is not be a threat to my king.
Think of it this way, if the rule was capture the king, then he would capture first and its game over.
Lets just Say he better win the Tal memorial to say the very least...he's fantastic! But hes not even the champ! Anand is as Solid as they get...
roy-batty wrote:
It's one of those arguments that works better over drinks than as an absolute.
Those are not necessarily opposed...
It must be remembered that samuel reshevsky did not dedicate himself to the study of chess like carlsen, fischer, kasparov etc. If Reshevsky would have had a fischer or kaspsrov like dedication, he would have been world champion without doubt. Reshevsky pretty much gave up professional chess back in his heyday for a career and his family. In pure talent alone, there are few who compare with Capablanca, and even Reshevsky. Carlsen however, is very Capablanca like in his talent. Perhaps the closest we have yet seen. He is in many ways a modern Capablanca.
Capablanca went 10 years without losing a game. However, this began when he was 26 years old in 1914 and ended when he was 36 in 1924. Carlsen is 21 years old. In pure talent alone, Capablanca is probably the greatest. I do not know if Carlsen will someday disprove this or not. Right now Carlsen is clearly the greatest talent since Fischer and Kasparov. Only time will tell if he will be as good, better, or worse than these other great players.
Good information, thanks.