One of chess com's big problems
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This is likely because of cheating, thoguh this topic might get locked now. If the games are private nobody can check if you have been playing a sudden burst of 99% accuracy games.
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Abtectous a écrit :
This is likely because of cheating, thoguh this topic might get locked now. If the games are private nobody can check if you have been playing a sudden burst of 99% accuracy games.
Invalid argument, since I'm talking about making games invisible simply for players, moderators can completely keep track of everyones game history and check accordingly if it's indeed a cheat.
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#4
Not invalid, one of the ways cheaters get banned and caught quickly is because if players have a slight suspicion they can check your recent games to see if you have an insane win streak or suspicious accuracy. This way they will report you. If moderators don’t get a report they won’t know to search your games.
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#5
That's not true, suspicion can be immediate if he plays a perfect game, with, as you said, far too much precision for his rating or abnormal move. A single game can be a red flag. The fact that several perfect games can be additional elements to confirm that its a cheater is very theoretical, like many, I didn't need to systematically look at a cheaters history when I suspected he was one.
Finally, a cheater should have the right to hide his games. If he cheats on 10 games in a row for example, he'll still end up getting caught in the same way as if his history were visible.
And speaking of cheaters, there are other ways of dealing with them besides relying solely on reports, but no large scale project has been envisaged to make the site playable at last, and the fact that they're not making any real decisions is no reason not to give players the right to delete their account completely, or hide their game.
i agree with the first post. but is privacy respected here ?
4 days ago
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#5, one perfect game might not be enough though. Since, cheaters don’t always play exactly perfect. If I lose and my opponent played well I don’t go, “they must be cheating, let me waste the mods time by reporting them because I played badly” if they played with suspicious engine accuracy after I analyze, 98 or above. Then I check their past games, if there is not a sign of this being a theme and their past games and regular accuracy it was just because I played so bad that high accuracy was easy.
I disagree. It would be harder to catch sandbaggers
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#9
I personally don’t even see why you wouldn’t want your games to be public. It’s just a game of chess, it’s not like it’s your personal data.
thankfully we can all see things from different perspectives, it’s not like we have to think like clones.
As far as I know users can contact support and request deletion of all data related to their account
UPDATE: https://support.chess.com/en/articles/9829268-how-do-i-delete-my-chess-com-account
along with the account lol
> along with the account
Yes, thats what the author wrote in #1:
> And why can't we delete our account and game history on the site?
4 days ago
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SixInchSamurai a écrit :
As far as I know users can contact support and request deletion of all data related to their account
UPDATE: https://support.chess.com/en/articles/9829268-how-do-i-delete-my-chess-com-account
Ok!! my bad then.
4 days ago
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Abtectous a écrit :
I personally don’t even see why you wouldn’t want your games to be public. It’s just a game of chess, it’s not like it’s your personal data.
In fact, you don't need to ask yourself the question just because it doesn't matter to you. It's just a personal choice so that you can play peacefully without telling yourself that if you play catastrophically, it will remain on your account for life as an irrevocable sentence.
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#16
Games played on site become public and will always be public. You can request you account be deleted but that only anonymizes the account and all games are kept attached to thar account
If you want to play anonymously, you can do that, just make sure you don't share any identifiable information or share the account with people
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#17
Do you want people who have had their accounts closed for fair play violations or abuse to be able to hide their accounts too?
Their records stay online so that Support and moderators can more easily identify when people return with a new account.
You might be amazed at how many people have lengthy histories.
4 days ago
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Martin_Stahl a écrit :
Games played on site become public and will always be public. You can request you account be deleted but that only anonymizes the account and all games are kept attached to thar account
If you want to play anonymously, you can do that, just make sure you don't share any identifiable information or share the account with people
That's not my question, I'm not asking if it will ever be possible, I'm asking why it's impossible (there is no good reason).
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#19
If you play bad, you played badly. You shouldn’t try to hide from that reality. Accepting the reality of your mistakes is the first step to improving
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justbefair a écrit :
Do you want people who have had their accounts closed for fair play violations or abuse to be able to hide their accounts too?
Their records stay online so that Support and moderators can more easily identify when people return with a new account.
You might be amazed at how many people have lengthy histories.
Yes, that's why it's best to read all the replies to a topic before replying. “I'm talking about making games invisible simply for players, moderators can completely keep track of everyones game history and check accordingly if it's indeed a cheat.”
But why on earth doesn't chess com want us to hide our games? And why can't we delete our account and game history on the site?
No matter how I turn it around, I still can't see the point of not having this feature.
It's normal that some people don't want their games to be public on their account, it's normal that those who want to deactivate their account actually want the account to be entirely removed from the database, but for some unknown reason this isn't possible, and in my opinion it's completely stupid.
I mean, there's really no good reason why it shouldn't be possible, it would even be convenient for the site to agree to delete accounts completely, freeing up space on the servers, but they'd rather leave thousands and thousands of deactivated accounts that no longer serve any purpose.
On the other hand, being able to deactivate game history would be very interesting for many people, and the problem isn't that the game would be like “deleted”, but just hidden, since it would be visible on the other player's account if he hasn't hidden his games too.
In short, there's no reason why it shouldn't still be possible in 2025, it's just illogical and completely idiotic to prevent it. And I'm a bit angry because these aren't the only things that leave something to be desired on chess com, it has a lot of potential that could be further optimized, but it's still very mid overall.