people abandoning games instead of resigning

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It's the timing of an opponent who is playing lightening fast and then suddenly stops and abandons the moment they blunder a piece. It doesn't happen often but when it does it's clear they have abandoned because they're in a losing position. Similar behaviour to how opponents abort a game when they start as black because they only like playing as white.

I don't have other windows open when I'm playing a live game in-case it appears suspicious to fair play detection or the site thinks I've abandoned.

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yaktam wrote:

Just as in life, you have NO idea what's going on at the other end. A phone call, a child crying, an angry parent or spouse. So relax, play a puzzle in another window (if you're on a computer), or read a news feed if you're on you're phone. There are a lot of worse things that could happen to you, than have to wait a couple of minutes.

You do not really understand the game of chess do you?
This is not boxing, or ice hockey or football, chess is much more serious, and if you think children (WTF???), angry parents or spouses (again WTF?????????) are any possible excuse for this atrocious and cowardly imbecilic behaviour of losers then, frankly, pal, you do not get chess. if you are losing you must resign - if anything else (like kids choking) you must resign.

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Hi guys
In 10 minute games it seems every second player will abandon a game instead of resigning.
I thought it would stop as i went up in rank but it is still there.
Surely this sort of bad sportsmanship could be easily detected and punished?
Anyone had similar experiences?

Yep, you can, you can report for stalling or leaving etc.

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yaktam wrote:

Just as in life, you have NO idea what's going on at the other end. A phone call, a child crying, an angry parent or spouse. So relax, play a puzzle in another window (if you're on a computer), or read a news feed if you're on you're phone. There are a lot of worse things that could happen to you, than have to wait a couple of minutes.

You do not really understand the game of chess do you?
This is not boxing, or ice hockey or football, chess is much more serious, and if you think children (WTF???), angry parents or spouses (again WTF?????????) are any possible excuse for this atrocious and cowardly imbecilic behaviour of losers then, frankly, pal, you do not get chess. if you are losing you must resign - if anything else (like kids choking) you must resign.

chill.

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j4ck4l5 wrote:

The community only has itself to blame. This is what happens when you refuse rematches. And if you need to justify it: Your win means nothing if you can't repeat it.

I understand this point, but it's not what the thread is about...

People not resigning when they are loosing a game should have a special waiting room in hell...

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yaktam wrote:

Just as in life, you have NO idea what's going on at the other end. A phone call, a child crying, an angry parent or spouse. So relax, play a puzzle in another window (if you're on a computer), or read a news feed if you're on you're phone. There are a lot of worse things that could happen to you, than have to wait a couple of minutes.

I agree this might and does probably happens sometimes... But I'm pretty sure it's only a very small part of people not resigning.

Personally, if I mess up with time, I try to catch up with my opponent and apologise...

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I will k*ll anybody who abandons games!

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Chess147 wrote:

The problem with a rating penalty is that members would collude to abuse the system.

Why would you collude to lose more points lol

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yaktam wrote:

Just as in life, you have NO idea what's going on at the other end. A phone call, a child crying, an angry parent or spouse. So relax, play a puzzle in another window (if you're on a computer), or read a news feed if you're on you're phone. There are a lot of worse things that could happen to you, than have to wait a couple of minutes.

yeah, if something happens, I resign and take the points loss vs abandoning. When you take a piece and the guy resigns, it's not because their baby started crying. Give me a break.

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ChessAGC_YT wrote:
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Hi guys
In 10 minute games it seems every second player will abandon a game instead of resigning.
I thought it would stop as i went up in rank but it is still there.
Surely this sort of bad sportsmanship could be easily detected and punished?
Anyone had similar experiences?

Yep, you can, you can report for stalling or leaving etc.

reporting is pointless. they do nothing obviously.

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Nice

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j4ck4l5 wrote:

The community only has itself to blame. This is what happens when you refuse rematches. And if you need to justify it: Your win means nothing if you can't repeat it.

my win means i won. end of story.

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PoisonedPawndScum wrote:
Chess147 wrote:

The problem with a rating penalty is that members would collude to abuse the system.

Why would you collude to lose more points lol

Someone creates a new account just so they can abandon games against a friend to give them double points. It's not a difficult scenario to understand.

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I just block and report for abandonment and move on.

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I just slip into my favourite silk babydoll and move on.

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j4ck4l5 wrote:
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:

The community only has itself to blame. This is what happens when you refuse rematches. And if you need to justify it: Your win means nothing if you can't repeat it.

You remind me of that guy, who thinks people who don't rematch are scared, which is not true. Fym your win means nothing if you can't repeat it? Yeah, sure, but that doesn't only apply in rematching. Also what if we don't want to rematch? Does that affect anything? I can just find another one to play chess with and repeat my win.

You can justify it at your low rating because you don't have the perspective of someone who has played against people rated upwards of 2k. And yes, it does mean nothing if you can't repeat it. You can get the win once, sure, maybe even against me, but twice? At your rating? Doubtful. What separates luck from skill is repeatability.

That's why you see all these guys hit 1700 and 1800, and then slide back down to 1600 over the course of a week. If your tactics only work because they're gimmicks, then they're not real tactics. But it isn't like the majority of you don't already know that, so all the more reason to continue, right?

This is why I have zero sympathy for you. You'd rather defend your poor behavior than own the consequences of it.

Oh so I can't say anything because I'm low-rated? What does rating have to do with rematching? Plus you can repeat your win by not only rematching the same person, but rematching with other opponents. Youbhave zerp sympathy for me? "Oh no, I'm so scared that you have zero sympathy for me" I also have zero sympathy for you with your pathetic argument. I also don't have tactics and gimmicks, I just play and eventually get a winning or losing position.

You can hang out with Stern, since he's just a chesstopcrown alt, ajd he's the one who said that people who don't rematch are scared.

One last thing, I ain't gonna win against you, even once, since I'm not good in blitz

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j4ck4l5 wrote:

The community only has itself to blame. This is what happens when you refuse rematches. And if you need to justify it: Your win means nothing if you can't repeat it.

Rematches have nothing to do with the issue of players deliberately abandoning instead of playing on or resigning. I rarely rematch and most of the time when I do the opponent has already started a new game with someone else so when I'm playing a session of rapid or blitz it's easier just to hit the 'new game' button. Your profile suggests you're obsessed with rematches but that has nothing to do with this discussion unless you think an opponent can see in to the future and abandons a game because their crystal ball tells them the opponent will decline a rematch.

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Really don't understand abandoning a game if you are low ELO (as I am) because chances are your opponent still has time to blunder and you have a chance to get back into the game, but there is no shame in resigning if the game is genuinely hopeless. People are weird sometimes.

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j4ck4l5 wrote:
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:

The community only has itself to blame. This is what happens when you refuse rematches. And if you need to justify it: Your win means nothing if you can't repeat it.

You remind me of that guy, who thinks people who don't rematch are scared, which is not true. Fym your win means nothing if you can't repeat it? Yeah, sure, but that doesn't only apply in rematching. Also what if we don't want to rematch? Does that affect anything? I can just find another one to play chess with and repeat my win.

You can justify it at your low rating because you don't have the perspective of someone who has played against people rated upwards of 2k. And yes, it does mean nothing if you can't repeat it. You can get the win once, sure, maybe even against me, but twice? At your rating? Doubtful. What separates luck from skill is repeatability.

That's why you see all these guys hit 1700 and 1800, and then slide back down to 1600 over the course of a week. If your tactics only work because they're gimmicks, then they're not real tactics. But it isn't like the majority of you don't already know that, so all the more reason to continue, right?

This is why I have zero sympathy for you. You'd rather defend your poor behavior than own the consequences of it.

Oh so I can't say anything because I'm low-rated? What does rating have to do with rematching? Plus you can repeat your win by not only rematching the same person, but rematching with other opponents. Youbhave zerp sympathy for me? "Oh no, I'm so scared that you have zero sympathy for me" I also have zero sympathy for you with your pathetic argument. I also don't have tactics and gimmicks, I just play and eventually get a winning or losing position.

You can hang out with Stern, since he's just a chesstopcrown alt, ajd he's the one who said that people who don't rematch are scared.

One last thing, I ain't gonna win against you, even once, since I'm not good in blitz

Why do you, a person who is far below average rating, who only plays a few times a month, think you have enough data for your opinion to matter?

Why you, a person who doesn't like others opinions, think you opinions are the only thing that matter? Also does low elo have any power to say what I can and cannot say to you? Just admit you hate low elo players and your opinion only matters and other opinions are trash, don't try and make excuses for your argument. Another pathetic pointless comment that doesn't attack my main point.

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KerryGM8 wrote:
yaktam wrote:

Just as in life, you have NO idea what's going on at the other end. A phone call, a child crying, an angry parent or spouse. So relax, play a puzzle in another window (if you're on a computer), or read a news feed if you're on you're phone. There are a lot of worse things that could happen to you, than have to wait a couple of minutes.

KerryGM8 wrote:You do not really understand the game of chess do you?
This is not boxing, or ice hockey or football, chess is much more serious, and if you think children (WTF???), angry parents or spouses (again WTF?????????) are any possible excuse for this atrocious and cowardly imbecilic behaviour of losers then, frankly, pal, you do not get chess. if you are losing you must resign - if anything else (like kids choking) you must resign.

Yaktam wrote:

I understand you’re passionate about chess and the etiquette around resigning when the game is clearly lost. But life doesn’t always wait politely in the background while we’re moving the pieces. The whole reason I mentioned a child crying, an unexpected phone call, or an urgent situation is to point out that sometimes people have very real interruptions that require their immediate attention.

It’s not “cowardice” or “imbecilic behavior” if someone takes a few extra minutes or times out because they had something critical to deal with. Sure, if a player knows they are beaten and everything else in life is stable, a polite resignation is the best course. But, it’s also healthy to acknowledge that chess, while serious and important to us, still exists in the real world where things can (and do) happen.

That’s all I was suggesting: to relax and remember there could be many reasons for a delay—reasons more pressing than a single chess game. I’m not devaluing chess; I’m simply saying that sometimes, you never know what’s happening on the other side of the board. And a bit of patience in those rare moments can go a long way.