Petition to Make Chess A Sport

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lfPatriotGames wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
25GSchatz22 wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
 

The definition is very clear. Which is why there is no confusion. Anyone with even a 4th grade education can read the definition. It's NOT my definition. I didn't make it up. The dictionary defines sport as a recreational activity requiring physical skill. It may have little or almost zero exertion. It's the SKILL that makes it a sport, not the amount of energy used. 

So when you say it matches the definition you are obviously wrong, or possibly confused. I guess you could try reading it again. 

Again, it didn't say physical skill. It said physical exertion. You keep on mixing these up. They are separate from each other. A sport requires physical exertion, but doesn't require physical skill.

Seriously, that's what the definition said. 

lol. I'm quite sure you didn't mean to say that. Flumboozled on what you meant to say perhaps. Senior moment. Temporary loss of thought. Maybe all three. 

You said, and I quote, "A sport requires physical exertion, but doesn't require physical skill."

Your words. Just out of curiosity, could you name a sport that requires zero physical skill? Since none is required, zero is the threshold. Baseball for example. No physical skill, at all, needed?

He said it doesn't have to have physical skill, not that a sport is not allowed to.

Yes, he said sports dont require physical skill. So naturally I'm curious what sport doesn't require physical skill. I've never heard of such a claim. I'm pretty sure nobody else has either. 

I've got to go to bed so I'll try to summarize for you so you can understand. Clearly, you aren't understanding what I'm trying to make you understand, leaving you to draw up conclusions I didn't mean you to assume. You kind of didn't answer to my response....

First of all, I was responding to you saying that chess isn't a sport because it doesn't require physical skill. You, in the that instance, were mixing up the words skill and exertion, leaving you to respond in a rather silly way.

And yes I said sports don't require physical skill. That doesn't mean that sports don't require physical skill, it's just that not all sports require physical skill. In this case, chess. Please don't bend my words. You'll simply drag on the conversation.

Chess is unique. I've interpreted that sports do not require physical skill. They only need to have physical exertion, competitiveness, and an element of skillfulness. Sports, as the definition implies (and says), only require physical exertion, not physical skill. Let me say repeat that. Exertion, not skill. 

Let me also repeat what I said earlier. Chess is a rare example of a sport which does not have physical skill as the main element of the game. Baseball, however, relies on the physical traits of competitors. (Chess relies on mental abilities.)

"Yes, he said sports dont require physical skill. So naturally I'm curious what sport doesn't require physical skill. I've never heard of such a claim. I'm pretty sure nobody else has either. "

Chess is a sport which doesn't require physical skill. And yes, I did say sports don't require physical skill as a trait to make them a sport, but physical skill is just the main element of those sports. Chess is a different case.

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OK, great. Then naming a sport that requires no physical skill should be easy. Baseball? Golf? What about football. No skill required in any of these sports?

"sports don't require physical skill". That's pretty out there. You might starting to lose some support from your own camp when you say things like that. 

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lfPatriotGames wrote:

OK, great. Then naming a sport that requires no physical skill should be easy. Baseball? Golf? What about football. No skill required in any of these sports?

"sports don't require physical skill". That's pretty out there. You might starting to lose some support from your own camp when you say things like that. 

I guess you didn't read anything I posted, so I'll paste some of what I said:

Chess is a sport which doesn't require physical skill. And yes, I did say sports don't require physical skill as a trait to make them a sport, but physical skill is just the main element of those sports. Chess is a different case.

And yes I said sports don't require physical skill. That doesn't mean that sports don't require physical skill, it's just that not all sports require physical skill. In this case, chess. Please don't bend my words. You'll simply drag on the conversation.

Let me also repeat what I said earlier. Chess is a rare example of a sport which does not have physical skill as the main element of the game. Baseball, however, relies on the physical traits of competitors. (Chess relies on mental abilities.)

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There's no need to become nasty either. Read what I've said and then make your remarks

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I did. You said sports do not require physical skill. So, maybe you could give an example. There are hundreds (according to sports encyclopedia about 3,000 sports).  So, it should be easy to name, lets say, 5 sports that don't require physical skill. 

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Notice nobody else is chiming in. Apparently out of those 3,000 sports it's pretty difficult to find even one, let alone five, that require no physical skill. 

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"And yes I said sports don't require physical skill. That doesn't mean that sports don't require physical skill"

 

I don't have to bend your words. I'm just copying exactly what you said. 

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And then misinterpreting it to think that many sports don't require physical skill. Any mental activity that also fits the definition of sport is probably a sport that does not have physical skill involved. For example, chess, poker, go, F1, or competitive gaming.

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people are still arguing? Bruhhhhhhh, it's a sport

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Chess is a sport, bye

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icyboyyy wrote:
KingCobra280 wrote:

Chess is a sport, bye

except it is

Chess is a sport, bye

bye

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icyboyyy wrote:

but who ever said poker, go, and competitive gaming were sports?

 

If you won't take my word, take the Olympics

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Boring

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The Olympics considers chess a sport. Even if you disagree, the rest of the world doesn't. You are going against the Olympics, which has come to the conclusion after debate that chess is a sport. Saying otherwise is wrong

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25GSchatz22 wrote:

And then misinterpreting it to think that many sports don't require physical skill. Any mental activity that also fits the definition of sport is probably a sport that does not have physical skill involved. For example, chess, poker, go, F1, or competitive gaming.

I was asking for examples of sports, not games. chess, poker, go, gaming are not examples of sports. You said sports do not require physical skill. Those are your words. So, baseball and golf (and 3,000 other activities) are sports? Does baseball require physical skill?

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25GSchatz22 wrote:

The Olympics considers chess a sport. Even if you disagree, the rest of the world doesn't. You are going against the Olympics, which has come to the conclusion after debate that chess is a sport. Saying otherwise is wrong

What leads you to believe "they Olympics" says chess is a sport? You might want to rephrase that so it's a little more accurate. 

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lfPatriotGames wrote:
25GSchatz22 wrote:

The Olympics considers chess a sport. Even if you disagree, the rest of the world doesn't. You are going against the Olympics, which has come to the conclusion after debate that chess is a sport. Saying otherwise is wrong

What leads you to believe "they Olympics" says chess is a sport? You might want to rephrase that so it's a little more accurate. 

It's not my word. https://news.stlpublicradio.org/2020-12-03/on-chess-settling-the-debates-is-chess-a-sport

https://londonchessconference.com/a-question-of-sport/

and many other sources. Regardless of your point, chess is officially recognized as a sport. This isn't an opinion. It is a fact

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lfPatriotGames wrote:
25GSchatz22 wrote:

And then misinterpreting it to think that many sports don't require physical skill. Any mental activity that also fits the definition of sport is probably a sport that does not have physical skill involved. For example, chess, poker, go, F1, or competitive gaming.

I was asking for examples of sports, not games. chess, poker, go, gaming are not examples of sports. You said sports do not require physical skill. Those are your words. So, baseball and golf (and 3,000 other activities) are sports? Does baseball require physical skill?

I disagree. They are sports.

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We are literally seeing the same people in this forum

very few new

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25GSchatz22 wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
25GSchatz22 wrote:

And then misinterpreting it to think that many sports don't require physical skill. Any mental activity that also fits the definition of sport is probably a sport that does not have physical skill involved. For example, chess, poker, go, F1, or competitive gaming.

I was asking for examples of sports, not games. chess, poker, go, gaming are not examples of sports. You said sports do not require physical skill. Those are your words. Yep So, baseball and golf (and 3,000 other activities) are sports? Yes Does baseball require physical skill? Yes lol

I disagree. They are sports.