Petition to Make Chess A Sport

1. being open minded is not relevant here. That's like asking someone to be open minded about them calling an apple a vegetable rather than a fruit. You can't be open minded about a definition.

Obviously, this is different. Otherwise, it wouldn't be such a big disagreement. Chess is a sport. I have my reasons (which I stated early in this forum). You think chess isn't a sport (which I hope you have your reasons for, although you haven't really stated them, other than contradict my points.) Again, read the definition. It says physical exertion, which is any physical input of any quantity. Chess requires some physical input, even if it doesn't require physical skill. If you think along this line of thought and perhaps said breathing could be a sport, then look earlier in the forum to see why it couldn't, even though a sport only requires physical exertion.

2. Definition of sport: "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment."

Yep
 Chess doesn't involve physical exertion AND skill. The skill that chess involves is mental, not physical. This is further proven by the fact that good chess players aren't necessarily required to be in shape. You could be an old man with a beer belly and be a GM making money from tournaments. 

Sorry, but you're wrong. Chess does involve physical exertion. Physical exertion, by definition, does not have to be vigorous. And chess requires skill, obviously. The adjective physical is affecting the word exertion, and if the writer wanted to say physical skill as well, the grammatical dictionary guidelines would require the word physical to be stated twice. So it isn't physical exertion and physical skill. It's just physical exertion and skill.

But again, one could argue that even if a sport required physical skill, at the top level, chess does. Wait, but what about those fat GMs that play online blitz all day? Well, before chess.com or online chess existed, otb was the way to play chess. GMs wouldn't sit at home all day. They would get in physical shape for all of their demanding tournaments, which would improve their mental shape. Does this mean that before online chess, chess was a sport and now it isn't? No, because, like I said, chess does not actually require physical skill.

You can't dispute this, there's nothing to argue or discuss, or get a consensus on. 

Apparently, there is.

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Your final paragraph is pointless, you're not making an argument. All you said was "i think it's important that people who spend time on chess are recognized as playing a sport"

And is it not important? I was just bringing up a different aspect of the argument, and I didn't have much to respond to other than you calling me an attention seeker. There's no need to insult someone to win an argument. At least not really win it.

You didn't respond to the point, you just ignored it completely. Why? Why is it important? what difference does it make?

But keep sucking attention from an idiotic topic such as this, i guess its easier than actually making an engaging ORIGINAL topic that uses your own creativity. 

Why is it a crime to make an unoriginal forum once in a while? Most of my forums are original smh. I thought it was an interesting and important topic that still needed to be discussed with people who were also still interested in it. If you don't like, don't respond to this comment.

God forbid someone actually tries to use their brain and come up with some original content like batgirl.

I have original content. You could have at least looked at other stuff I posted...

Here are some "original forums" I've made:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/if-you-change-one-thing-on-chess-com-what-would-it-be

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/a-forum-for-martin-stahl

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/the-fried-liver-attack-is-op-60896109\

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/are-you-an-introvert-or-an-extrovert-60821277

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/the-ridiculous-ruy-lopez-opening-marshall-attack-modern-main-line-spassky-variation

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-variants/an-extremely-cool-variant-on-chess-com-2-0-60771321

and more

It's obvious ur trolling, but just for the people that see this and are actually serious abuot chess being a sport. Realise you are making the simple points im putting forth and making them nuanced. I'm talking about facts like definitions, the state of a person when they play, and the consequences of the labelling of sport. Instead of directly refuting or responding to these points you put forth red herrings and are deliberately vague because you know your argument has no proper footing, because you're just doing this for attention. 

No, I'm not trolling. I believe chess is a sport, otherwise I wouldn't feel like arguing with your "points." I've made my points clear, maybe not in response to you. Just look earlier in the forum and you'll find plenty of good points. I too have looked at definitions, states of beings, etc. I'm not being vague. It'd be easier to respond to a person who doesn't just call me an attention seeker. You, frankly, don't know me well enough. I understand, you disagree. But be civil and stay chill.

Im not gonna respond to that whole thing, i stopped reading when u said "chess requires some physical input"

It's obvious you're trolling. You won't respond to my points properly, you keep inserting red herrings and saying "Its widely disputed there fore there is something to discuss here"

No there isn't. the definition is clear. It's only either people that have 0 comprehension skills or attention seeking trolls like u that make it an issue. No one else cares. 

Like all sports, chess has a defined set of rules and etiquettes. The International ChessFederation serves as the governing body of the sport of chess, and it regulates all international chess competitions. Additionally, the International Olympic Committee considers chess to be a sport.

I couldn't give less of a toss how many organisations consider chess a sport. it's not a sport. Instead of avoiding the point by talking about different organisations, how about u address the actual concept? But u won't, because ur incapable of doing so.

Rules and etiquete doesn't make an activity a sport. that's a ridiculous argument. 

If the Olympic committee says its a sport its a sport but there opinion 

Im not gonna respond to that whole thing, i stopped reading when u said "chess requires some physical input" Sport isn't defined by "physical input". There is PRECEDENT here. Sport is a combination of physical exertion and skill. Look at football (Soccer). Players need to be in peak physical condition to play, but they also need to understand how to pass, how to dribble, how to play with their team. It's a COMBINATION, of both. 

Chess doesn't have this combination, which, is why the majority of the chess community are overweight people, not 6 pack ab athletes. It's not a sport, no matter how you slice it. Picking up pieces and moving them a couple centimetres on a board is not sport, it's a board game. 

It's obvious you're trolling. You won't respond to my points properly, you keep inserting red herrings and saying "Its widely disputed there fore there is something to discuss here"

No there isn't. the definition is clear. It's only either people that have 0 comprehension skills or attention seeking trolls like u that make it an issue. No one else cares. 

Why are you like this?

Sonia is a troll.