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Maslow ?  John Boy Maslow ? 

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Maslow ?  John Boy Maslow ? 


  Maslow's hierarchy of needs.  An outdated behavioural theory

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Suggo wrote:
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Maslow ?  John Boy Maslow ? 


  Maslow's hierarchy of needs.  An outdated behavioural theory


Outdated?  People no longer need food, shelter, and water before other things?

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 Just for the record I didnt delete my comment. Did I break some rule or something ? Would whoever deleted my comment please fess up and tell me why it got deleted ?  Thanks in advance.

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Yes, I know the feeling. Against higher ranking players it is'nt that big, because you expect them to win. But agianst lower ranking players, when I loose I get so angry. But I never will even consider to cheat. If I do it, against whom can I be angry or frustated? No way, enjoy your chess, it is only a game!!

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 Just for the record I didnt delete my comment. Did I break some rule or something ? Would whoever deleted my comment please fess up and tell me why it got deleted ?  Thanks in advance.


 Repost it, there seems to be a few [COMMENT DELETED] on this thread

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lol

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The suspense is unbearable

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k, I'll play along, Abba ???

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Damn I'm good, ay Cool

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No, don't listen to them, they don't know talent when they see it, but you... you have insight, your makin me feel........

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lol, m wasted n signing off........night babs Smile

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great apology. just goes to show that people can and do step up to the plate to admit their faults.

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Yea my comment was deleted as well.  What, we have a moderator here now who is deleting anything and everything he doesn't agree with?  Is he trying to overhaul and dull down these forums and make them more like the Gameknot forums?  Anyone who has ever played on that horrible chess site will know what I mean by that.  Seriously, don't delete comments without at least giving a reason you coward.  I'm sure erik wouldn't approve of a moderator on a power trip deleting comments left and right.  He already sent one moderator packing for doing the exact same thing in the tactics trainer commenting area.

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Following how one gets from non-cheater to regular cheater, I think it goes through many steps. Borrowing a bit from some comments in the Cheating Forum, along with some expert analysis on how Madoff's Ponzi scheme developed, it seems that the initial crossing the line is much different from the subsequent events.

Initial crossing the line

One theory is that Madoff's scheme started off as a single trade in a single account gone bad. He then borrowed some money from another account to pay the first account, to smooth over or eliminate the bad trade. (The initial intention was undoubtedly to make up the lost ground, then to repay the account that had been borrowed from. It's even possible that this happened several times successfully before finally spiraling out of control.)

For computer cheating, the initial crossing of the line can be something as simple as coming home completely drunk, with a pretty low vacation balance, and a bunch of games coming up in the queue. So you can fire up the Fritz and plug in a couple of the games that are pretty equal - because even if you're plastered you can still win an endgame up a rook. The initial intention was undoubtedly to do it just once.

Subsequent infractions

It's easy to see how Madoff's actions can spiral out of control. You make a bad trade, borrow from one account to pay another, double down your bets to make it up, and that trade goes south too. All of a sudden you've got a really big problem on your hands. And you've still got all these parties and social occasions to attend, and you cannot just admit what you did - it's much easier to just live the lie.

In the case of a (c)heater, what starts as using Fritz to help avoid vacation time after the bar can continue into "blunder checking" for complicated middlegames or endgames (where you do full analysis and then run Fritz to check your analysis), and then it can continue into "well I don't have time to analyze this game right now I'll let Fritz do it". It's clearly a slippery slope.

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Nice analogy, Ozzie. 

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Yea I thought about that. Tongue out  This kind of thing has happened before though and Erik took care of it right away.  He knows the importance of having an open forum (with limits of course).

Anyway back on topic... great post Ozzie.

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I think there should be some way to identify which comments are deleted by staff so we know , at the very least. Is there ?

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At the moment, there is nothing that shows which posts were removed by members themselves and which were removed by staff.

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