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Should TDs continue being able to remove players once the Tournament begins?

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DeepGreene

Currently, Tournament Directors can remove players both during registration and even between rounds of an event that's already started.

We're considering making it so that the 2nd thing (booting a player during a tournament) is impossible. 

Bad idea? Good idea?

chyss

Probably a good idea. If the player is doing something so bad that they need booting from the tournament then it's probably chess.com staff who should be doing that rather than tournament directors. 

However, if you're finding that chess.com staff are too busy to deal with this kind of request, then continue to delegate that to tournament directors, as you now do. 

tyler
DeepGreene wrote:

Currently, Tournament Directors can remove players both during registration and even between rounds of an event that's already started.

We're considering making it so that the 2nd thing (booting a player during a tournament) is impossible. 

Bad idea? Good idea?

I think that's a good idea. The only reason a player should be removed mid tournament is by staff for account closure.

ponz111

Should not a player be removed from a tournament if he dies? And if so - what happens to games he already finished and won or drew?

MSC157

Probably a good idea. I'm about not to win my tournament and I'm considering removing my rival. Disable that option before I boot him out. Wink

Joking a bit, but I agree with the suggestion.

ponz111

Should a tournsament director be allowed to play in the same tournament that he directs?

Martin_Stahl
ponz111 wrote:

Should a tournsament director be allowed to play in the same tournament that he directs?

Why not? Other than being able to boot people (which is being asked about here), what can a TD do after the tourney starts?

SirBenjamin

I think TD's should have that type of power as long as it is not going to forfeit current games someone is in (I have never experienced this so not entirely sure how it works - I assume the aforementioned is not possible). As long as it does not affect someone's rating, the TD's should be able to remove people who are holding up the tourney or have joined when they shouldn't have for whatever reason.

If a TD abuses their power, no one is going to join their future tourneys anyways... 

ponz111
Martin_Stahl wrote:
ponz111 wrote:

Should a tournsament director be allowed to play in the same tournament that he directs?

Why not? Other than being able to boot people (which is being asked about here), what can a TD do after the tourney starts?

My last USCF games I ever played were two Tornado tournaments of 4 games each.  I won both tournments with a score of 4-0.  [or 8 straight wins]

As it turned out the tournament director played in both tournaments and did poorly. Therefore he never sent in the results and My USCF rating has stayed the same [2188] for more than 40 years and I am not a FM.

Chessislife2013

You wouldn't have been anyway... you would have made NM.

chessweb101

I say good idea. A TD should have the right to boot a player before the tournament, but during the tournament it would be unfair to both the player and his opponents.

Senior-Lazarus_Long
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hamerkop
ChessKingT wrote:
DeepGreene wrote:

Currently, Tournament Directors can remove players both during registration and even between rounds of an event that's already started.

We're considering making it so that the 2nd thing (booting a player during a tournament) is impossible. 

Bad idea? Good idea?

I think that's a good idea. The only reason a player should be removed mid tournament is by staff for account closure.

I think that's a bad idea. Chess.com is understaffed and cannot check everyone (e.g. players with rating below 2000 are not checked for cheating). There are cases when TD should take some action without waiting for staff to close someone's account.

Martin_Stahl
ponz111 wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
ponz111 wrote:

Should a tournsament director be allowed to play in the same tournament that he directs?

Why not? Other than being able to boot people (which is being asked about here), what can a TD do after the tourney starts?

My last USCF games I ever played were two Tornado tournaments of 4 games each.  I won both tournments with a score of 4-0.  [or 8 straight wins]

As it turned out the tournament director played in both tournaments and did poorly. Therefore he never sent in the results and My USCF rating has stayed the same [2188] for more than 40 years and I am not a FM.

Totally different situation. The question is about Chess.com tourney's not USCF OTB events.

I play in OTB tourneys I run if there are an odd # of players. I would likely lose my TD certification if I ran an event to be USCF rated and didn't send it in.

chess_kebabs
ponz111 wrote:

Should not a player be removed from a tournament if he dies? And if so - what happens to games he already finished and won or drew?

The player would lose  by timing out, so it wouldn't hold up the tournament. Any games won or lost prior to his or her death, should be recorded as the win or loss. 

chess_kebabs
DeepGreene wrote:

Currently, Tournament Directors can remove players both during registration and even between rounds of an event that's already started.

We're considering making it so that the 2nd thing (booting a player during a tournament) is impossible. 

Bad idea? Good idea?

Good idea. Admins can't always be trusted to do the ethical thing, and in tournaments it's paramount they do. This proposal prevents any risk of abuse of privileges.

If a tournament director wants to remove a player due to abuse, the player can always be reported to staff, and staff can delete the player if he/she agrees it is appropriate to do so. 

Polar_Bear
DeepGreene wrote:

Currently, Tournament Directors can remove players both during registration and even between rounds of an event that's already started.

We're considering making it so that the 2nd thing (booting a player during a tournament) is impossible. 

Bad idea? Good idea?

Bad idea. Really bad.

TDs should possess absolute powers like real tournament directors. There are so many untrustworthy and/or unfair players around (cheaters). Chess.com failed in keeping the site clean and allows anonymity, therefore it is up to TDs to manage their tournaments in a healthy way.

So no cut TD's privileges, but extend them.

http://www.chess.com/groups/forumview/tournament-directors-powers-and-responsibilities

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/suggestions/important-more-powers-for-tournament-directors

chrka

Good idea. Like others have said, anything worthy of being kicked out of a tournament for should be handled by chess.com staff. Maybe give the TD greater control over when the tournament starts and blocking of players, if this isn't available already.

SneakySwashbuckler25

Read barryjh's profile page and thread for more info(just search"barryjh and chess.com" on your browser.

hamerkop
hamerkop wrote:
ChessKingT wrote:
DeepGreene wrote:

Currently, Tournament Directors can remove players both during registration and even between rounds of an event that's already started.

We're considering making it so that the 2nd thing (booting a player during a tournament) is impossible. 

Bad idea? Good idea?

I think that's a good idea. The only reason a player should be removed mid tournament is by staff for account closure.

I think that's a bad idea. Chess.com is understaffed and cannot check everyone (e.g. players with rating below 2000 are not checked for cheating). There are cases when TD should take some action without waiting for staff to close someone's account.

After reading the story of barryjh I changed my mind. What I propose is TD could ask chess.com staff to remove player from tournament for some minor offences (e.g sandbagging, rude behavior), which do not justify closing of account.