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erik

Does anyone have suggestions on improving stats? :)


MapleDanish

Well how about this...

After a certain point, wins don't give you any rating points.  

ie. You consistently play 1400's at a 1600's strength and beat them every time.  You gradually work your way up to 1900 ... after you are 500 points stronger than your opponent, a win gives you no points.  This way it's not possible to achieve rediculously high ratings simply by playing a huge volume of lower rated players.

Simple, easy to fix... the only drawback is that it may not be 100% effective... it will always be possible to be 400 points or so higher than your genuine strength.

OPTION #2

Create a huge site championship annually and make everyone play in it... 

I don't even need to state the problems here, it might work though... 


Fotoman

Personally, I would like a counter on my games to show how much time I at a given "board" to make a move, if that is possible. When I click on a board, my counter would start, when I leave, it stops.

I also would like to know how many visitors I have to game, kinda like "web hits". Excessive hits on a game might be an indication of potential cheating or help from another.

Also if my opponent is actually looking at the game at the same time. Might be nice to engage discussion.

 


MapleDanish

In terms of limiting cheaters I have an idea...

1. Get volunteers from this site to recieve private engine use suspicions and analyze the accused... if they look like they may be cheating the mod team could (as a group, to avoid unfair judgment) do a statistical analysis of their games and from there if it looks like the accused is cheating (beyond a reasonable doubt) the evidence will be sent to you (erik) and you will be left to bann them if it seems fair.

 

ps - I would totally volunteer to do this with a group, I learned the game from a computer and practice against them regularly.. I think I could help detect cheaters. 


erik
this is for suggestions on the STATS, not on cheating or anything else :)
MapleDanish

Embarassed Sorry Embarassed

 *points* He MADE me do it!

:) 


spice
I would like to know how often I win if I castle on the opposite side of my opponent compared to if I castle on the same side; also my stats on winning if I castle vs. if I don't castle.  I tried to look through all of my games the other day to determine this, but it was taking too long since I've played quite a few games now.
Fotoman

Yeah, blame the genius. Tongue out

Counters are "stats". Means, modes, standard deviations are the defining terms of "statistics". If I am playing a 1400 player and the game gets "webhits" in the 99 percentile, I would venture a guess there is "help". Instant messaging software makes this cheating easy. Fifteen people wating a lower rated game would be suspicious.

As to a specific move or combination of moves as being an indication of success or failure, I think something like a "flag" used by certain email programs, owned by Bill Gates, to file saved messages might work. Player could have a way to program his own "flag" and sort his own games by his flags.


bkbucky

could you organize stats by first moves?  not just openings -- this would be more customizeable.  perhaps a chess board where i could move out pieces 1. e4 and 2. Nf3, then it will search for all games i played where those are my first two moves (then maybe even an option where order of moves isn't important). 

 

any stats that you would have available in general would also be calculated for these games, in addition to just sorting to view those pgns.


Azoth
The other day i was thinking about some way of put a handicap on chess, some of the ideas included, less pices (but this actually might help for faster development), less time on clock (since its turn based this doesnt seem to help), and the one that i think it really might work its let a computer on easy play the first X moves for me! its wuld be actually funny to see what kind of bad moves it could make, and actually would make a game more interesting against low lvl players.
Azoth
sorry for the last post it was missplaced, well for the stats windows, i would like to see by order what opening i use most with white, w/black and my win loss percent with each opening. this kind of information would actually be one more reason to get platinum over gold (knowing that the 1st one can see oponent stats), it could be helpfull to see on a fast glance what kind of opening she/he use the most, open, semi-open, closed.
mata123
this seemes crazy but ERIK what do you think of 3D CHESS! that will be awesome!lol!PLEASE!
highflyer
well improving the stats... lets see i think that a percentage of what pieces are used the most by players would actually help. meanining the percentage say you use the queen in the game and etc. vs how you play without these valued pieces. this would help determine strength and thus could be placed with a rating of its own.
simplix

I think it would be really cool to somehow orgnize your games by openings.. I think it would help alot. Not only statisticly but by name. I don't know the names of many openings and I think it would help people learn, to be able to review games by openings.. Although that may be quite a large project...

 


Chessstudent

....was wondering if it would be possible to recieve a fide or uscf rating online?

 or did all the cheaters pretty much curtail that?

frankly, I'd like to play the strongest players on here as I'm sure others would too.

I came up the hard road, so I'm not afraid to lose. As I always say I appreciate the lesson(s)

.....just another thought, perhaps the win of the upperclassmen would entice mgmt. to reward us with a mentorship for a time?? what do you think?

    Ray


ajachi
Chess.com has millions of games being played (How's that for a stat - Number of games played). Why don't you guys get some statistics on the winning probability of things like castling on opposite sides or even various openings. Also - and this is a little besides the point - a boxing-style championship ladder with an eventual Chess.com champion could be a good idea...
SonofPearl

Opening statistics might be nice.  So for individual members there would be a breakdown of the opening percentages e.g. as Black vs e4 Sicilian 75%, Caro-Kann 15%, Ruy Lopez 10%.  As Black vs d4 King's Indian 50%, QGD 40% Benko Gambit 10%.  And similar stats as White.  These could then be aggregated for overall openings stats for the site a s a whole.

 

The members results (%win/lose/draw) could also be broken down by opening.  I'm not sure if this would be achievable, but I think it would be a really useful feature, especially for more advanced players.


mata123
what do you think erik?(of our sugestions)
erik
good! all noted.
sk8erkid
3d chess would be awsome if u can download it....