Strongest players here that don't know basic checkmates

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Gamificast

I have been playing chess for about 20 years, and I have not once had to do a KBB v K or KBN v K mate in any of my games. surprise.png

WeylTransform
Gamificast wrote:

I have been playing chess for about 20 years, and I have not once had to do a KBB v K or KBN v K mate in any of my games.

 

Chess for 20 years? Wouldn't that equate to a higher Elo rating, possibly at the skill level of a grandmaster? Just throwing that out there into Minkowski spacetime, no intent of making a verbal attack, but rather wishing to gain a feel for your journey into the world of chess.

Asmo2k

I assumed that all players knew these things. Interesting to hear that stronger players don't. For me, endgames are probably the only part of the game that I find boring to practice though.

WeylTransform
SchaakVoorAlles wrote:
WeylTransform wrote:
Gamificast wrote:

I have been playing chess for about 20 years, and I have not once had to do a KBB v K or KBN v K mate in any of my games.

 

Chess for 20 years? Wouldn't that equate to a higher Elo rating, possibly at the skill level of a grandmaster? Just throwing that out there into Minkowski spacetime, no intent of making a verbal attack, but rather wishing to gain a feel for your journey into the world of chess.

 

Chess ratings are not proportional to number of years playing.  If all it took to reach GM level was to play for 20 years we'd all (eventually) be GMs.

What is more 1750 is a higher rating that most players ever reach. It is also strong enough to demolish 1250 players with ease.

 

True, there wouldn't exist a directly proportional relationship, and I realise that I ought to take back what I stated. Here, a complete amateur at the game of chess overlooking a number of aspects including those encountered in my chess games, myself. 

Gamificast
WeylTransform wrote:

Chess for 20 years? Wouldn't that equate to a higher Elo rating, possibly at the skill level of a grandmaster? Just throwing that out there into Minkowski spacetime, no intent of making a verbal attack, but rather wishing to gain a feel for your journey into the world of chess.

Well, I'm 31 and I remember playing chess since I was at least 11 years old.

Not everyone has the raw talent to make it as a GM, so I play chess as a hobby.

Asmo2k

People not learning basic ways to checkmate might also be further reason to insist on being shown rather than resigning (at least in speed chess).

RubenHogenhout
blueemu schreef:

 

In this position with the womans. The easyiest is first Ng6 then the bishop on g8 and with the w-shape you put the kind checkmate in the h1 corner.

 

 

RubenHogenhout

drmrboss
RubenHogenhout wrote:
blueemu schreef:

 

In this position with the womans. The easyiest is first Ng6 then the bishop on g8 and with the w-shape you put the kind checkmate in the h1 corner.
 
 

 

What willl you do if black king run into 4. .....Kh4, Instead of Kh6.

Kjasmine008
GM_Kenny_Ji wrote:

Who's the strongest player here who don't know the queen, rook, 2 bishops, or bishop+knight checkmate? I'm 1515 rapid and just learned the queen checkmate but doesn't know the 2 bishops mate. 

I don't really know how to checkmate with a knight and bishop or two bishops.

USAuPzlBxBob
WeylTransform wrote:
Axorcist wrote:

K, N + B vs K is hard. I've know it when I was young, but forgot about it and now I simply can't do it any more. I should be able to win this endgame playing against the computer from the worst possible starting position. Which is, I believe, King, Bishop and knight in the corners and the enemy king in the centre.

 

 

If dubious, you should probably view the following link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3EqM17jvOc

Thank you so much, WeylTransform.

Watch this video twice.

Then hover over the hand-on-pawn icon, playhand.png, click Computer, click the big plus sign, set to Level 10 (in case it matters), and then click Drills, select the very last Drill, which will be K,B,N vs. K ending.

Get it to be effortless for you, and you'll be smiling once you have it mastered.  Revisit the drill once a month until it is truly drilled into your brain.