Best moves for white to win this crucial game

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maybe not...

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b8=Q
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There was a reason the OP didn't show coordinates. 1.b8Q is one of at least a dozen winning moves for White. And "crucial" was not really the right word for this game.

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This is a win for both black and white since there is no way of telling which way the pawns push.  E1 could be the central dark square at the bottom or the top.  But I think by looking at the pawn structure, we might be able to tell if it is possible for the white pawns to push down.  My guess is that black is winning.

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The position is legal with either White or Black at the bottom. I don't agree that "there is no way of telling". We're asked to find White's win, suggesting Black is at the bottom. But we're also told the game is crucial, suggesting White is at the bottom. (The game could only be crucial if it's a genuine game from a real event.)

So I guess we can take our pick. But to go along with the joke, we have to assume Black is at the bottom.

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Whichever side blue is (I would assume black...) has an indisputable victory, there is nothing else to say about this game. +4 points in the endgame and 2 advanced connected passed pawns? Forget about it.
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But if black is truly the yellow side and you honestly need a winning path as white, then even the sloppy continuation of e7 Kd7 e8=Q+ Nxe8 Rxe8 Kxe8 h5 gxh5 g6 h4 g7 Kf7 d7 and white (blue) wins by the Rule of the Square, queening first easily.
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Black could be more stubborn after e7 with Ne8, but after Re6 followed by Rxg6, white now has 4 passed pawns and the game just becomes that much more absurd.
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__Matthew__ wrote:
Whichever side blue is (I would assume black...) has an indisputable victory, there is nothing else to say about this game,

What???  Black has the blue pieces and it's White's move. How is Black going to win against 1.b8Q?

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We don't know if blue represents black.We don't know if a1 is at the top or at the bottom.I wonder then if we can draw safe conclusions regarding "White's plan for the win" ?!

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I suppose we could ask the OP to tell us if Black has the blue pieces. If so, then the task of finding a win for White tells us whether a1 is at the top or bottom.

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To me it seems more natural that White is at the top,so blue is white and Kb2 is a good plan for the win.

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To me, it's obvious that the OP intended for Black to be playing the blue pieces, from the bottom.

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n9531l wrote:

To me, it's obvious that the OP intended for Black to be playing the blue pieces, from the bottom.

You may well be right,in reality I have no idea and my hypothesis is purely intuitive.

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Oh lol black is from the bottom, weird position
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It really makes no sense how almost every pawn is passed in the same files, you would have to deliberately create this position in a game...
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As a puzzle the position doesn't have to make sense, it just has to be legal.

The whole point of this puzzle was to trick those who weren't able to see past the obvious. It succeeded in several cases. Does that make the OP a sadist, or just a joker?