can you get this move in under 30 seconds? I couldn't and lost

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benonidoni

benonidoni

There are only two correct moves. One is far better for black. Black to move. I sat there in a blitz and couldn't get it. 

penguimms

if you couldn't find that u need to work on your endgames my g

Cupine

Considering that you can allow to give up one knight (or even both), the moves are not hard to find, but in time trouble yeah, anything can happen. Which one of Nc5 or Nd6 is better, is basically irrelevant because both are easy wins.

kinkajouthedragon

Kd6 is a option.it took me 0 seconds to figure this out

BestSell

...Nc5

Tricky position. I can see why it stumped you.

Black needs to keep the knight on c6, otherwise a6-a7 wins for White.

Kinngis

No no no.

Nba5 is best. If White moves a6-a7 c-knight can eat it, and if white eats with b-pawn, another knight can eat it and prevent a-pawn from moving.

How is Nc5 better?

lfPatriotGames

It looks to me like there are many winning moves. Just dont move the c6 knight is all. Just move the b knight pretty much anywhere. 

lfPatriotGames
isaacw13467 wrote:

Kd6 is a option.it took me 0 seconds to figure this out

Kd6 is an option. But it may not be a very good one. What happens after pxc6?

BestSell
Kinngis wrote:

No no no.

Nba5 is best. If White moves a6-a7 c-knight can eat it, and if white eats with b-pawn, another knight can eat it and prevent a-pawn from moving.

How is Nc5 better?

...Nc5 hits the a6 pawn. This prevents the b5 pawn from moving (if it moves, then the c5 knight will capture the a6 pawn).

 

...Nba5 would run into b5-b6! Then Black is basically lost.

lfPatriotGames
BestSell wrote:
Kinngis wrote:

No no no.

Nba5 is best. If White moves a6-a7 c-knight can eat it, and if white eats with b-pawn, another knight can eat it and prevent a-pawn from moving.

How is Nc5 better?

...Nc5 hits the a6 pawn. This prevents the b5 pawn from moving (if it moves, then the c5 knight will capture the a6 pawn).

 

...Nba5 would run into b5-b6! Then Black is basically lost.

You are right. Same with b knight to d8. But both require the opponent to make the b5-b6 move, and even then it's still not a sure win for white. Two knights and three pawns vs a queen and three pawns isn't exactly a sure thing. 

ninja888
isaacw13467 wrote:

Kd6 is a option.it took me 0 seconds to figure this out

Kd6 loses immediately after bxc6, Kxc6, a7

ninja888

My first instinct was to play Nd6 and Nc8 which was the first thing i saw

ninja888
lfPatriotGames wrote:
BestSell wrote:
Kinngis wrote:

No no no.

Nba5 is best. If White moves a6-a7 c-knight can eat it, and if white eats with b-pawn, another knight can eat it and prevent a-pawn from moving.

How is Nc5 better?

...Nc5 hits the a6 pawn. This prevents the b5 pawn from moving (if it moves, then the c5 knight will capture the a6 pawn).

 

...Nba5 would run into b5-b6! Then Black is basically lost.

You are right. Same with b knight to d8. But both require the opponent to make the b5-b6 move, and even then it's still not a sure win for white. Two knights and three pawns vs a queen and three pawns isn't exactly a sure thing. 

The problem is, white's queen can capture black's pawns easily since the knights and king are too slow to reach the kingside

benonidoni

Ya, KND6 is by far the best and the only other is KnC5.  When playing a fast blitz I find it difficult to suddenly stop and spend some time to think yet I really didn't have much. Mostly saying I'm running out of time. He made an excellent move to put this position in play. 

BigParsley

No way I can get the solution in less than 30 sec.

CastawayWill

Kc5

lfPatriotGames
CastawayWill wrote:

Kc5

Same as Kd6. What happens after the pawn takes c6? 

trend11555

Pawns eat knights

dude0812
benonidoni wrote:

 

Nc5 ? I found it in 4-5 seconds