Rook + f pawn + h-pawn versus rook - is it learnable?

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newbie4711

I wonder if you can learn this endgame perfectly as a human?

I tried it in a daily and came to the conclusion that I have to learn rook+f-pawn vs. rook first sad

Have any of you tried to study this endgame? Is it doable? Unfortunately, my opponent played pretty poorly, so it wasn't really a challenge.



PopcornSC

It's a draw in most positions I believe. Specifically with rook and bishop pawns unless of course the defending king is cut off.

Arisktotle

Yes it's learnable. But first get your GM diploma. wink

ThrillerFan

In roughly 3150 over the board chess games, I do not believe I have ever had either side of R+a+c vs R or R+f+h vs R.

 

Other endings I have had many times!

 

The winning side of Lucena's Position about 7 to 10 times

Philidor's Draw about 30 to 40 times

B+N vs lone king 4 times, 3 of them on the losing side, the latest of which was this past Tuesday Night.  Opponent let me loose a few times and got it down to mate in 1 on the 50th move.  Sucks to be him!

mwstein

According to my endgame book (a very old one), the position is a draw with the exception of some special cases.

tygxc

@1
It is an important endgame, as it occurs frequently. It is a useful endgame to strive for when you are behind in material. Usually it is a draw, but in practice the side with 2 pawns often wins.
In this case it was a draw to start with.
44...Re6? loses. As a general rule the rook must be behind the most dangerous passed pawn, not in front of it, hence 44...Re8 or 44...Re7.


Brontide88

There are many drawn positions and drawing tricks. If White can get his King in front of the pawns, it almost always wins. Black should check from the far side to make it harder on White.

SwimmerBill

All I know about it is how to defend when your king is in in front of the pawns. (Oddly, I learned it from 'Reinfeld on the End-game in Chess - Practical End-game Play' which is a pretty good book on endgame strategy.)  I've never had it come up in a game but I've used the ideas in other defenses.