If only people got more prize money for faster checkmates, or they mattered in any way shape or form!
When is it better to underpromote?
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Faster mates are important in premove situations when low on time
Fast mates score 1 point in chess games. Slow mates score 1 point in chess games.
Fast mates score 1 point in problems. Slow mates score 0 points in problems.
See the difference?
Oct 31, 2019
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#65
The difference implies problems are spurious since games are what matter!
Oct 31, 2019
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#66
glamdring27 wrote:
The difference implies problems are spurious since games are what matter!
Truth matters. Games exist only so that you can develop your vision for problems.
just s/t i wanted2say. i feel its mean (cheeky) to underpromote in a totally won game. just getta Q for gawts sake !
ah-ha. lol !
Oct 31, 2019
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#69
Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
just s/t i wanted2say. i feel its mean (cheeky) to underpromote in a totally won game. just getta Q for gawts sake !
When it's past time to resign, cheeky is what you get.
Nov 1, 2019
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#71
In this game I was able to checkmate using only my bishops without needing the help of my king.
Nov 1, 2019
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#72
Promoting to Bishops just for the sake of it isn't 'better to underpromote' though. It's just choosing to make a game last longer!
I played a game in the Ponziani opening where it was essential to under promote to a knight to win.
I've seen knight promotions in puzzles, but never in a real game.
Nov 1, 2019
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#75
UltimateCreatorofBob wrote:
I've seen knight promotions in puzzles, but never in a real game.
Nov 2, 2019
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#76
freenelsonmandela wrote:
32 Nc5 all the way!
Of course, I should have seen that.
only underpromote when it directly places your opponent in check, i think.
tlay80 wrote:
The only time I've ever had occasion to underpromote to a knight in a game wasn't to give check -- it was to *avoid* getting checked:
I was about to resign, when I noticed b8=N!
I wish I could report that I managed to hold the draw, but even with the underpromotion, I couldn't quite save it. Still, it bought me an extra ten or twenty moves.
Have had a good look at that game you laid out in that post: https://www.chess.com/a/NcGHkSSJy7gi
and I think I understand the situation, can I just check: you were hoping to stay out of harms way for 50 more moves? Is that the basic idea, the best you could realistically hope for in that position?
UltimateCreatorofBob wrote:
I've seen knight promotions in puzzles, but never in a real game.
Why not post #66 as puzzles, RewanDemontay? They are nice problems!
They aren’t really meant to be problems so much so as economy attempts.