Continually Losing Despite Hours of Study

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Honestly, I don't know what to do anymore. I study HOURS every single day. And I just keep getting stomped almost every single time I play. The only time I win is when I play against my dad, and he has something like a 200 rating. Honestly, I'm feeling super discouraged. Like I'm just not built for this game. I just want to improve. Improvement is what drives me in all areas of life. And I just keep running into a brick wall here. What do I do?

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Simple, figure out two or three areas that hold you back and focus on those for a while, same as any task..... Repeating the same errors doesn't fix them. If you cant identify them yourself (this is likely, no reflection on you but if we all knew our weaknesses then we'd fix them) then ask for an experienced player to go through some of your games. When you have areas to focus on then being disciplined enough to effectively fix them is the next stage. Good luck !

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I think you need to be patient.  A 700 rapid rating isn't bad after only 6 weeks.

Looking at your results, it says that 93% of your losses come from resignation.  That is way too high.  You need to play out most of the games and make people mate you.

Really.  It is entirely possible that you could win many of the games where you have resigned.

And on the other side,  this comes from your Insights:

Look at all those mates in 1 that are going by you.  

Something like a few timed Puzzle Rush every day might help you recognize basic mates.

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It seems that you only study how to attack, no matter what, instead of attacking and defending. But what have you studied, more precisely, the London System? And because you got your hands dirty with opening preparation, thinking that would be enough to outsmart your opponents, you now feel entitled to go for the jugular as soon as you enter the middle game. London is supposed to be a solid system. Seeing how you play, maybe you should start looking at e4. Also, after Rxf3, in one of your last games, why not take it, why do you keep counter-attacking? Because the only one hanging pieces and being confused is you, hence the title of your post. You’re a gambler and that’s what you get.
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Acid, you aren't entitled to be rude to me just because you're better at chess than I am. I know there are things that I need to work on, thus this post. You give a bad name to what should be a game built on camaraderie and good sportsmanship.

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Justbefair,

You're probably right. I don't think I'm doing myself any favors by resigning so eagerly. It's a knee jerk reaction out of frustration. And I appreciate your encouragement about my rating given my start date. I hear a lot of conflicting information about where a rating "should" be by this point, with some saying that the fact that I haven't breached 1000 by now indicates that there are severe problems in my method of study.

For the record, I do try to train tactics and I do timed puzzle rush at least twice per day if I can help it. I'm having trouble connecting the concepts I'm studying with my play in live games. My tactics rating is almost triple my rapid rating. I know it's typical for the one to be higher than the other. But that extreme disparity is making me feel as though there's a disconnect that I should have put together by now.

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cegreen213 wrote:

Justbefair,

You're probably right. I don't think I'm doing myself any favors by resigning so eagerly. It's a knee jerk reaction out of frustration. And I appreciate your encouragement about my rating given my start date. I hear a lot of conflicting information about where a rating "should" be by this point, with some saying that the fact that I haven't breached 1000 by now indicates that there are severe problems in my method of study.

For the record, I do try to train tactics and I do timed puzzle rush at least twice per day if I can help it. I'm having trouble connecting the concepts I'm studying with my play in live games. My tactics rating is almost triple my rapid rating. I know it's typical for the one to be higher than the other. But that extreme disparity is making me feel as though there's a disconnect that I should have put together by now.

The tactics "ratings" and regular playing ratings have little connection.   

A few years ago, people were whining that they were getting punished for taking too long to solve a problem, so chess.com decided to let there be a minimum of points earned  for a correct answer no matter how long you take.   

Tactics ratings mainly reflect your persistence in solving problems.

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cegreen213 wrote:

Acid, you aren't entitled to be rude to me just because you're better at chess than I am. I know there are things that I need to work on, thus this post. You give a bad name to what should be a game built on camaraderie and good sportsmanship.

 

Apologies if it sounded that way. The same thing applies to me. Having the wrong assumptions, having the wrong reactions when my expectations get crushed. I've told you, you attack too much. Focus on the defense. Why do you attack relentlessly? That's what I've tried to express, that you treat London, which a solid system, as much as Italian is with White, like your opponent plays f6 every move. Stop doing that. Also, the title of your post sounded dramatic. Now, you sounded offended. Say thanks for receiving advice, even if you don't like it. 

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cegreen213 wrote:

Acid, you aren't entitled to be rude to me just because you're better at chess than I am. I know there are things that I need to work on, thus this post. You give a bad name to what should be a game built on camaraderie and good sportsmanship.

Chess isn't really that special as a game.

Looks like acid had actually looked at your games before he commented which is more than what most people in the forums do before they comment.  Instead of evaluating his possibly well meaning critique, you might have played the victim card. You also mentioned quitting in frustration.  There might be a generic attitude issue here that might need fixing first before the other technicalities.

I threw in a lot of mights in there to sound polite but probably failed miserably as usual. Wish you well.

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The stronger desire to win the stronger suffering of losing. Your mental motivation is winning, having a higher rating, etc. That is normal, and that is dead wronghappy.png) your rating will change, and you will face a lot of ups and downs in your chess carrier and day-by-day life. You need to review your aims, and mental motivation, you need to redirect it. Instead of wanting to win games, and competitions, have a higher rating whatever, you need to cultivate a desire to learn something new every day and develop qualities of the mind. That is in short. We have strong attachments to results, achievements, and improvement, so redirect your desires to something really valuable. If you are focusing to learn something new every day, you can reach this aim, you can always grow, and if you are better and better every day, the results automatically will be better and better. Down streaks are the best things that can happen to us. We can learn more. 

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acidcapitalist wrote:
cegreen213 wrote:

Acid, you aren't entitled to be rude to me just because you're better at chess than I am. I know there are things that I need to work on, thus this post. You give a bad name to what should be a game built on camaraderie and good sportsmanship.

 

Apologies if it sounded that way. The same thing applies to me. Having the wrong assumptions, having the wrong reactions when my expectations get crushed. I've told you, you attack too much. Focus on the defense. Why do you attack relentlessly? That's what I've tried to express, that you treat London, which a solid system, as much as Italian is with White, like your opponent plays f6 every move. Stop doing that. Also, the title of your post sounded dramatic. Now, you sounded offended. Say thanks for receiving advice, even if you don't like it. 

I didn't think you were rude at all.  Truthful, and sometimes the truth hurts some people, I realize, but I read your remarks as constructive criticism from someone offering an honest appraisal.  No more, no less.

Even so, it speaks well of you that you offered an apology anyway even though (IMHO,) it was not necessary at all.  You are clearly an individual of good upbringing and good character, and players like you are the primary reason why I like this site so much.  Hat-tip to you, friend. 🙂

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cegreen213 wrote:

Acid, you aren't entitled to be rude to me just because you're better at chess than I am. I know there are things that I need to work on, thus this post. You give a bad name to what should be a game built on camaraderie and good sportsmanship.

This is an uncalled for, immature response, and the "bad name" crack is especially puerile.

He took the time to study your games and give you a sober appraisal as an experienced player trying to help you.  That it hurts you to hear it should be viewed as an opportunity for personal growth; instead, you lash out at someone - a stranger responding to your written request for help - because you seemingly cannot bear forthrightness.

OP you need to grow up and act like a mature adult.

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You have to be much more specific about the way you are studying every day.

You are doing something very wrong there, as your play is lacking a lot, and it is not just tactical blindness.

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https://www.chess.com/forum/view/for-beginners/the-evergreen-question-from-beginners-how-can-i-get-better

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If someone wants to strengthen his tactical game, it is fine for him to practice with a variety of problems, but he would achieve faster results if he studied the tactical motifs that frequently appear in the systems of play that he frequently uses.

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pfren wrote:

You have to be much more specific about the way you are studying every day.

You are doing something very wrong there, as your play is lacking a lot, and it is not just tactical blindness.

Hi. IM pfren.
Very nice to see your post .

Could you please explain more about " You have to be much more specific about the way you are studying every day."?

Thank you very much.

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In chess, there is a big difference between knowledge and skill. You can have a head full of chess facts and theories, but if you lack the skill to make simple calculations and to take advantage of opportunities as they arise during the game, that knowledge is useless.  In the following game of yours, the advantage swings back and forth because both of you overlook easy tactics. I'm not talking about tricky forks and skewers. I mean noticing things like "His knight is defended once and I'm attacking it twice," or "he just hung his rook, why don't I take it?" You can't improve if you don't look at the board and see what's right in front of you! 

 

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Hi. archaja.

I've follow you post.
It's very good. Thank you.

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IM pfren asks a good question: Exactly what are you studying? Openings, tactic problems, going over master games?

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