Draw by repetition

Can I just check something, please? When a player is losing and tries to make the same moves repeatedly to get a draw by repetition, that doesn't actually work if I'm making different moves every time, does it? I'm almost certain it doesn't, I just doubt myself given how often people seem to try it.

You are right Kevshev.

The important repetitions are not move repetitions but position repetitions.

This is part of the chess rules. 3 times same position leads to draw. If people tries it a lot is because they can. It's part of the game to be able to win regardless of this possibility. However, Chess.com does not deliver ir., which is a mistake.

Deliver ir.? ???

Actually, you have to hit the draw button after the position is repeated 3 times. If it gets repeated another 2 times, it is a draw.

What do you mean that you are ‘making different moves every time’?

Do you mean that the same position is getting repeated, it is just the ‘in between’ moves that get you there were different? That is a draw.

Or do you mean that your opponent is repeating the same moves, and you keep on responding with different moves, in such a way that the actual position, meaning the location of ALL the pieces, isn’t repeating itself? That is not a draw.

Simply put it is entirely based on the location of the pieces, and has nothing to do with how they got there. (With the exception of castling and en passant being the same.)

Thanks for the replies. Dale kindly cleared up my confusion. So, basically, when people as bad as me at chess are repeating the same two moves repeatedly trying to force a draw, that is completely futile and I don't need to fret so long as I am responding in different ways. Got it.

Thanks again for your help.

One common mistake:

If the position repeats, but it doesn't repeat in a row, it is still a draw.

Drawn by 3-fold-repetition

That's interesting! I didn't know that either. Thanks.

Drawn by 3-fold-repetition of position (don't have to be in a row but the same player always to move too...otherwise it is not considered the same position)

Even if you swap pieces like the Ng1-b1 and vice versa the position is equal. My personal rule of thumb: if the FENs are the same, they include ep and castling rights.

There's another thing all of you are missing.

It's not just the same position 3 times.

It has to be the same position 3 times with the same player to move, both players having the same legal options.