en passant: legal but still a cheat move

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AndreaBeloved
I don’t care what the so-called experts have to say. Even if it is legal, it’s desperate and a cheat move. It was “invented” by a person who thought it convenient to make the move. It’s ridiculous and just leaves your opponent disrespecting you.
Tells you much about your dealings in everyday life if you’re willing to make this “legal” move in a game.
Chess_Player_lol

tldr: i lost because i am bad at the game and forgot about the en passant rule.

Jalex13
If en passant is a “cheat move” then moving a pawn two squares on their first move is also cheating. Stop it with the stupid, whining posts. There is nothing cheating about it. It prevents someone from passing a pawn by jumping to squares without having the opportunity to capture it.

Just because you don’t understand that doesn’t make it a “cheat move”. It’s absolutely not desperate, and clearly you have been watching too much Gotham, because now you’ve adopted the outrageous view that it’s “disrespectful”. Ridiculous post, ridiculous opinion, ridiculous reasoning. Get over it and stop whining.
blunderbus67

I long for the day I checkmate someone with en passent😂 can moan about any tactical move, doesn't make it any less available to either side

BCchessnut

If it allowed, by the rules,  it simply, and factually cannot be a cheat move.

 

I'll take "logic" for $100 please Alex.

 

JoeMamaForever420

Its a rule already.

However, i do not understand why only a pawn can do this movement. If it is captured in passing, a knight should be able to do the same. 

Anyway it is almost never useful(except in torpedo chess)

BlueHen86
JoeMamaForever420 wrote:

Its a rule already.

However, i do not understand why only a pawn can do this movement. If it is captured in passing, a knight should be able to do the same. 

Anyway it is almost never useful(except in torpedo chess)

We can call it 'Equine Passant'.

JoeMamaForever420
BlueHen86 wrote:
JoeMamaForever420 wrote:

Its a rule already.

However, i do not understand why only a pawn can do this movement. If it is captured in passing, a knight should be able to do the same. 

Anyway it is almost never useful(except in torpedo chess)

We can call it 'Equine Passant'.

Royal passant? (would actually be useful in king v pawn and king)

PawnTsunami

Translation:  It should be a rule that I'm not allowed to lose; therefore anyone who beats me broke the rules.

ninjaswat
JoeMamaForever420 wrote:

Its a rule already.

However, i do not understand why only a pawn can do this movement. If it is captured in passing, a knight should be able to do the same. 

Anyway it is almost never useful(except in torpedo chess)

It was originally created for two reasons

1- because foot soldiers could intercept each other when first deployed

2- to avoid making it too easy to stop attacks

JoeMamaForever420
ninjaswat wrote:
JoeMamaForever420 wrote:

Its a rule already.

However, i do not understand why only a pawn can do this movement. If it is captured in passing, a knight should be able to do the same. 

Anyway it is almost never useful(except in torpedo chess)

It was originally created for two reasons

1- because foot soldiers could intercept each other when first deployed

2- to avoid making it too easy to stop attacks

A knight with a spear could intercept foot soldiers. 

Chessflyfisher
BerylsMom wrote:
I don’t care what the so-called experts have to say. Even if it is legal, it’s desperate and a cheat move. It was “invented” by a person who thought it convenient to make the move. It’s ridiculous and just leaves your opponent disrespecting you.
Tells you much about your dealings in everyday life if you’re willing to make this “legal” move in a game.

You are either a fool or trying to be funny!

Chessflyfisher
JoeMamaForever420 wrote:

Its a rule already.

However, i do not understand why only a pawn can do this movement. If it is captured in passing, a knight should be able to do the same. 

Anyway it is almost never useful(except in torpedo chess)

Please, don`t be stupid!

BlueHen86
Chessflyfisher wrote:
BerylsMom wrote:
I don’t care what the so-called experts have to say. Even if it is legal, it’s desperate and a cheat move. It was “invented” by a person who thought it convenient to make the move. It’s ridiculous and just leaves your opponent disrespecting you.
Tells you much about your dealings in everyday life if you’re willing to make this “legal” move in a game.

You are either a fool or trying to be funny!

They are not mutually exclusive.

lfPatriotGames
ZachGB wrote:

why is it a cheat move

I think many people consider it a cheat move because they aren't aware of it's full benefit. It's sorta like income tax deductions. It's legal, but a cheat move. Someone who takes the deductions will benefit more than the person who doesn't. 

So en passant, while cheating also is legal. People who aren't willing or able to use the rule to their benefit can rightly consider it cheating. 

BlueHen86
lfPatriotGames wrote:
ZachGB wrote:

why is it a cheat move

I think many people consider it a cheat move because they aren't aware of it's full benefit. It's sorta like income tax deductions. It's legal, but a cheat move. Someone who takes the deductions will benefit more than the person who doesn't. 

So en passant, while cheating also is legal. People who aren't willing or able to use the rule to their benefit can rightly consider it cheating. 

I disagree. It's not cheating, and not knowing the rules doesn't allow you to call someone who does know the rules a cheater.

lfPatriotGames
BlueHen86 wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
ZachGB wrote:

why is it a cheat move

I think many people consider it a cheat move because they aren't aware of it's full benefit. It's sorta like income tax deductions. It's legal, but a cheat move. Someone who takes the deductions will benefit more than the person who doesn't. 

So en passant, while cheating also is legal. People who aren't willing or able to use the rule to their benefit can rightly consider it cheating. 

I disagree. It's not cheating, and not knowing the rules doesn't allow you to call someone who does know the rules a cheater.

I know, but from the perspective of the player who is unable or unwilling to realize the benefit of en passant (or tax deductions) it IS cheating. They feel cheated. You hear people ALL the time complain that people cheat on their taxes, when in reality, it's just simple tax deductions that anyone could use. The person who feels cheated says they cant take the deductions because they don't have the deductions to take, so they say it's cheating. 

It's really about perspective. 

Jalex13
“You're a cheating kind of forum poster, trying to cheat us out of our legal whining.”

You caught me 😔
BlueHen86
lfPatriotGames wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
ZachGB wrote:

why is it a cheat move

I think many people consider it a cheat move because they aren't aware of it's full benefit. It's sorta like income tax deductions. It's legal, but a cheat move. Someone who takes the deductions will benefit more than the person who doesn't. 

So en passant, while cheating also is legal. People who aren't willing or able to use the rule to their benefit can rightly consider it cheating. 

I disagree. It's not cheating, and not knowing the rules doesn't allow you to call someone who does know the rules a cheater.

I know, but from the perspective of the player who is unable or unwilling to realize the benefit of en passant (or tax deductions) it IS cheating. They feel cheated. You hear people ALL the time complain that people cheat on their taxes, when in reality, it's just simple tax deductions that anyone could use. The person who feels cheated says they cant take the deductions because they don't have the deductions to take, so they say it's cheating. 

It's really about perspective. 

it's not about perspective, it's about the knowing the rules, and knowing the definition of words:

Cheating: act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination.

Making a legal move is not dishonest or unfair.

lfPatriotGames

I agree, but to the person who feels cheated it really doesn't matter. You can't tell someone their feelings are wrong.