GM Within 6 months?

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V_Awful_Chess

Isn't ChatGPT terrible at chess?

Also I'm very much a beginner but neverthless: I would have thought that it makes more sense to just start playing rather than studying for a month first.

When you analyse your games in chess.com they give suggestions for puzzles/lessons for you to do so you know what areas you're weaker on and need to learn more. So for example based on my recent games I know I need to improve in bishop moves and checkmates.

GMegasDoux

@V_Awful_Chess. Yes it makes illegal moves, it makes moves for the oponent and it appears to verbatum use known openings it can essay before losing track of pieces and hanging them. Gotham chess has a few videos on it. Terrible at chess. It might get better, but only when the team behind it improves the program.

62-Polymath

Interesting, now the teenagers are attacking my "very small" friends list? Sorry if calling you a teenager, being that you show a 2000+ rating, but I assume you discovered me from chess.com Discord "which i left about 30 minutes after joining" because it was just a bunch of BS from teenagers that though they were some kinda of elite hackers on the Darknet. LOL

Not my cup of tea. Being that it's chess.com's discord server I was expecting better discord management than that. But oh well.

62-Polymath

It's funny of the stirring up on emotion, arguing, etc that I'm causing here and my 7-day trial isn't even up yet. It's going to be interested to see how things progress.

62-Polymath

Ok, I can't hold my private chatting and discussing my learning using ChatGPT any longer because this threat is getting pretty long now and plenty of people have responded. So let me open up with someone that put out a video just three days ago of him playing against ChatGPT "THE VERSION I USE" which is the paid version by the way. I'm sure EVERYONE here assumed I was using the FREE version 3.5. NO, I'm using ChatGPT 4.5 at $20/month and is up-to-date information. It doesn't have the Sept 21 2021 restriction.

But here everyone check out GothamChess playing ChatGPT (4.5) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LDaY7X2qGk

Jenium

It's nice to have goals, but I don't think you actually understand what "GM" means. According to Google 600 000 000 people play chess regularly. There are about 2000 GMs. That means that 1 out of 300 000 chess players becomes a GM. And you're competing against players who started out as a child and devoted their lives to the game...

I think you can be happy if you hit a rating of 1200 after 6 months.

62-Polymath
Jenium wrote:

It's nice to have goals, but I don't think you actually understand what "GM" means. According to Google 600 000 000 people play chess regularly. There are about 2000 GMs. That means that 1 out of 300 000 chess players becomes a GM. And you're competing against players who started out as a child and devoted their lives to the game...

I think you can be happy if you hit a rating of 1200 after 6 months.

I was aware there was a rating and it was around 2400 or so and I knew "like everything else such like a Superbowl, World Series, World Series of Poker Braclet, Gold Cup, etc that it wouldn't be an easy thing to accomplish. But I figured that chess.com was the official site for the rating, judging from everything I discovered in my short research period on the subject "remembering I'm a total new person to the game" and I figured all I had to do was just play a ton of games on chess.com and I could reach the rating.

I do get tired of repeating this exact same information because it was on the first page of this post but here yet a whole bunch of lazy people "believing they know what's going on and rehashing a questions that has been answered over and over already" thinking their the first or second to raise to response of how crazy this is "to become a GM within 6 months" and this whole goal was realized that it's impossible and I had moved onto another goal instead all within the first 10 post of this thread. Goes to show why beginners are having such a hard time learning chess because they don't want to do the reading, studying, practice, rinse and repeat that it takes. They want the fast track to GM which is why they clicked on my threat to begin with a seen all the experienced people committing on how impossible this was and figured they'd jump right in and look experienced too saying the same thing not realizing "GM within 6 months" was a dead subject in the first day the thread started.

62-Polymath

And for those beginners to chess I am slowly getting friends here and on my Discord from people seriously interested in learning, talking about, and debating chess. So don't be afraid of anything. There is no wrong question because we are ALL beginners. Everything is pretty much and open debate that allows all of us to learn from each other.

Reaskali

I don't see a reason for anybody to study with friends in chess. Maybe I'm a loner, but if it works for you then go for it. It's good to see you try your hardest to improve nonetheless.

Maybe you could try setting goals that are lower so that you will continue to be motivated.

Reaskali

Then if you continue to progress, you could aim to be a Grandmaster.

62-Polymath
Reasura wrote:

I don't see a reason for anybody to study with friends in chess. Maybe I'm a loner, but if it works for you then go for it. It's good to see you try your hardest to improve nonetheless.

Maybe you could try setting goals that are lower so that you will continue to be motivated.

There's no problem on motivation. I'm a self-motivated person and I have taught myself everything that I know today. And as my name suggest "Polymath" I know quite a bit. And it's not just talking I have diplomas, certifications, awards, etc in many to back it up.

But I appreciate your response because usually you'd be correct and hopefully I can provide some motivation, excitement, to learning chess to those beginners I get together with. I know I'll get bashed for this but doesn't really bother me. Do these young people not understand I'm 62 years old? You don't think I haven't seen, experienced, negativity, bashing, etc before in my life? I've experienced more than the years you are old. So yea, not a bother. I just laugh it off. People going to hate...

62-Polymath
Reasura wrote:

Then if you continue to progress, you could aim to be a Grandmaster.

As mentioned on the first page of this thread, the goal to be GM is no longer the goal. The goal now is just to teach people to get good enough that they can make extra money playing chess online and get some enjoyment and entertainment from playing chess.

Reaskali
62-Polymath wrote:
Reasura wrote:

Then if you continue to progress, you could aim to be a Grandmaster.

As mentioned on the first page of this thread, the goal to be GM is no longer the goal. The goal now is just to teach people to get good enough that they can make extra money playing chess online and get some enjoyment and entertainment from playing chess.

I see. I'm not one to judge after all if one can teach or not but it's going to be very hard if you aren't that experienced. Let's say a 1500 is trying to teach, there are still some mistakes that they have not mastered. If you want to become an actual coach in chess.com, you should aim to have at least 2000 ratings and above for chess.com, which is still the same goal of being a pro.

62-Polymath

I'm not a coach, I'm not charging anyone, this is just beginners getting together discussing chess, strategies, tactics, and learning together as a group with something in common and all on the same level so we understand each other and the problems one of us is having is probably a problem ALL of us are having. Think of it like a community. And this is why I'm getting so many beginners coming together.

Forget your thoughts of how much of a liar, scammer, or any of the other names I got labeled here. I'm just happy I getting beginners into believing there's a place they might be able to chat, communicate, and learn with others that are on the same level as they are and we can all improve together. This is also bring new players to the game they might have given up and just moved on because their finding too complicated. I have watched MANY hours of chess YouTube videos and while it's great content and video production NONE of it is for beginners because the videos goes too fast, the moves just fly by the screen, etc. These YouTube coaches believe they are teaching beginners and they can't seem to understand why their not getting it because it's simple TO THEM. Of course it's simple to a 2300! Just saying.

To actually teach beginners, you need to talk, demonstrate, go over stuff, in a totally different way because they DO NOT follow you when you're moving at lighting speed f9 b4 c3 d9 g7 etc as fast as you can say it. Their making teaching videos like they have a 30 second time clock running on them.

Reaskali

I respect your opinion. It's good to put yourself into the shoes of a beginner and understand them. I like your approach in teaching others.

V_Awful_Chess
62-Polymath wrote:

This is also bring new players to the game they might have given up and just moved on because their finding too complicated. I have watched MANY hours of chess YouTube videos and while it's great content and video production NONE of it is for beginners because the videos goes too fast, the moves just fly by the screen, etc. These YouTube coaches believe they are teaching beginners and they can't seem to understand why their not getting it because it's simple TO THEM. Of course it's simple to a 2300! Just saying.

To actually teach beginners, you need to talk, demonstrate, go over stuff, in a totally different way because they DO NOT follow you when you're moving at lighting speed f9 b4 c3 d9 g7 etc as fast as you can say it. Their making teaching videos like they have a 30 second time clock running on them.

Have you tried the chess.com lessons yet?

They're a large part of what you're paying for with diamond membership (playing games is free); and some of the lessons are *very* basic and easy for anyone to understand.

There's a guide you can go through and you can search lessons filtering by beginner (or intermediate).

Also, you'll be recommended lessons after analysing your games, you can click on them to go to the lesson or you can search lessons of the same topic.

DLKIII

This might be the single most ignorant forum topic I have ever seen. The OP--who has some difficulty constructing a grammar and spelling error-free sentence--doesn't have the slightest clue what he is talking about. I honestly can't tell if he is serious or just trolling.

DLKIII
Reasura wrote:

I respect your opinion. It's good to put yourself into the shoes of a beginner and understand them. I like your approach in teaching others.

1. He is not "putting himself in the shoes of a beginner." He IS a beginner.

2. The only thing he has to teach on this topic is how to make a complete fool of one's self.

Reaskali
mynameisbumpa wrote:
Reasura wrote:

I respect your opinion. It's good to put yourself into the shoes of a beginner and understand them. I like your approach in teaching others.

1. He is not "putting himself in the shoes of a beginner." He IS a beginner.

2. The only thing he has to teach on this topic is how to make a complete fool of one's self.

I'm just trying to motivate somebody. Of course, I don't believe that is gonna happen. It's better to just tell a white lie.

DLKIII
62-Polymath wrote:
Reasura wrote:

Then if you continue to progress, you could aim to be a Grandmaster.

As mentioned on the first page of this thread, the goal to be GM is no longer the goal. The goal now is just to teach people to get good enough that they can make extra money playing chess online and get some enjoyment and entertainment from playing chess.

how, exactly, do you propose people make extra money playing chess online? with easy and free access to chess engines widely available, only a fool would bet money on an online chess game. why do you think there are no existing online chess betting sites? for god's sake, man. do a little research before announcing your 'goals'. you will save yourself a lot of time and embarrassment.