I just lost to someone rated about 400 points lower than me.

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kennen0
I have recently gotten into playing chess. Although things have mostly gone smoothly, I recently lost to someone rated significantly lower than me. Why did this happen to me? Has this happened to anyone else?
notmtwain
kennen0 wrote:
I have recently gotten into playing chess. Although things have mostly gone smoothly, I recently lost to someone rated significantly lower than me. Why did this happen to me? Has this happened to anyone else?


You made multiple blunders, including the last blunder here.

It happens.

landloch

Although a 350 point difference in rating is quite large, the lower rated player is still statistically expected to score about 11%. That is, out of 100 games, the lower rated player's score vs. the higher rated player is expected to be 11 to 89 (wins = 1 point, draws = 1/2 point).

So losing against someone rated that low isn't common, but it's certainly not unheard of.

It's also possible that your skill level is a bit below your rating and/or your opponent's skill level is higher than their rating.

 

kennen0

I doubt that my rating is overrated since I have beaten numerous folks rated 50 points higher than me. I probably just got super overconfident and made a multitude of blunders as a result.

NilsIngemar

Enjoy your victories over much higher rated players, then come back to earth when you lose to a much lower rated player.

 

It happens to everyone.

NilsIngemar

You both made plenty of huge blunders.

 

Next time just take the Pawn and try to chase the queen around as you develop your pieces.

GChess

This happens to all of us! Even the GM's, so don't feel bad. That's just the nature of chess in general, just use it as motivation to get those points back! 

Have fun with it, happy.png

EdwinP2017

I think in the below 1000 rating range games will often decided just by coincidence: Who blunders less (eg dropping queen). Therefore it is not very surprising that you lost against such a low rated player. It will be much more unlikely that a 1200 player can beat a 1600 Player.

psychohist
landloch wrote:

It's also possible that your skill level is a bit below your rating and/or your opponent's skill level is higher than their rating.

I'd say, especially the latter.  At 500 rating, a person could be improving very fast.  If they're improving at 100 points per game, their rating could easily lag their ability by a few hundred points.

Edit:  after looking more closely at the profiles here, I don't think that's what happened, though.  It was just bad luck with respect to who blundered more.

NovitiateOne
I watched your game, and believe me, that was really enjoyable. Advantage switched sides many times, both of you blundered a lot, and that’s what this game is supposed to be all about. No one knew who will win the game until the very last move.

Your last biggest blunder though is your 60th move, B-f3, and sealed your fate. During the end game, you must not put your king one step behind a queening pawn, you will never catch it. King is no faster than the pawn. B-c2 was your best move. I think you were trying to squeeze a win here, but The game is already a draw the moment that each of you have one pawn with one knight or bishop. All it takes is for person to sacrifice bishop or knight for the queening pawn and its already done. You cannot checkmate anyone with a single knight or a bishop. And even if you ended up with one pawn advantage and both knight and bishop are gone, you will not be able to win this game when his king is in front of your pawn, and the pawn is either on “a” file or “h” file.

Blunder is okay. Everyone blunders, even the super GMs. If they don’t, it will always be a draw. It’s just that players under 1400 blunder way more, but they don’t see it as blunder until the other player took advantage of it. A blunder is not a blunder unless the opponent sees that blunder. I have seen some missed captures on both of you. They were blunders, but since the other person didn’t see it, they were not really important. You lost not because he’s better than you, or better in identyfying your blunder, but because you commited the last blunder during crucial moment and he got lucky.
kennen0

Thanks for the responses. Unfortunately, my problem is only getting worse. I today lost to someone rated in the 100s (I didn't even know you could be rated that low) and I feel like I'm actively regressing. I've decided to abstain from playing players rated significantly lower and I will take a break from the game for a bit in order to clear my head. This is all so frustrating.

CoolPineAppleMan

First time?

 

NovitiateOne
Don’t give up. Everyone feels the same way. It’s just part of the game.
It doesn’t matter how strong you get or how high your rating is, someone better will always mop the floor with you. And whoever thats someone is, another someone is also mopping the floor with him as a floor mop.
As for losing against a lower rated player, it’s normal to see an IM beating a GM, yet, Masters can also beat IM, but an expert player can also beat a Master, and a strong Class A player can also beat an expert. It doesn’t mean a Class A category one player can beat an IM.

So, don’t give up. Everyone loses, even Magnus and Caruana.
psychohist
kennen0 wrote:

Thanks for the responses. Unfortunately, my problem is only getting worse. I today lost to someone rated in the 100s (I didn't even know you could be rated that low) and I feel like I'm actively regressing. I've decided to abstain from playing players rated significantly lower and I will take a break from the game for a bit in order to clear my head. This is all so frustrating.

I think my playing strength varies by easily 300 points depending on my mental state.  Usually I play against the computer at whatever Komodo level I'm approximately equal to.  If I win, I play a rated game.

Granted, I mostly play rated games against bots, too.  Still, it keeps me from losing too long a string of rated games if I have brain fog.

ThebestA9player

Don't look at rating. For example, a grandmaster might just open a new account and put his status to "new to chess"

Sigognac
An4nsi wrote:

At this level ratings are closer than they look. Yes, 800 is more than 500 but the type of mistakes people make are the same.

Not really. The chances of a 2800 winning vs a 2500 are the same as 800 vs 500. The scale is linear.

ItzMinnieCheckmates
Bxe4 was the mistake
DarkKnightAttack
kennen0 wrote:
I have recently gotten into playing chess. Although things have mostly gone smoothly, I recently lost to someone rated significantly lower than me. Why did this happen to me? Has this happened to anyone else?

Because there is many piece placement mistakes. Allowed opponent to trap your bishop and trapped your own knight. Losing to opponents with much lower rating happens to everyone, It is a part of this game.