When to resign - Etiquette - An honest appeal

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Optimissed wrote:

Very, very sorry about your mum, Jeff. I'm sure I speak for everyone.

Thanks.

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Epiloque wrote:
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PeasantElevator wrote:

Haven’t played OTB since march

Yeah, this pandemic is slowing down OTB ratings even more than usual.   

lol I am uscf 950. If I wanted to I could go to under 1k tourneys, but that would be sandbagging

Technically it is, but what's wrong with saving your rating, to give yourself a better chance of winning?   Lots of players do that.   I've even thought of doing it myself.   My official USCF rating is something like 1470, but I feel like I'm playing at an 1800 level now.   I'm sure I could win 2 or 3 class tournaments (under 1500 and under 1600) until my rating caught up to my strength.   Especially now that I'm eligible for senior consolation prizes, it might be worthwhile.   Assuming I can still memorize my opening repertoire at my age.  lol

Quite right. I won loads of Intermediate tournaments (with quite big prizes) when I was improving because an improving player's grade is always in advance of the rating. Intermediate was usually under 140 BCF, which is like 1720 FIDE and I was playing at more like 1900, a lot of the time. Why not win some tournaments, so long as you don't artificially depress your own grade or rating?

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Optimissed wrote:

Quite right. I won loads of Intermediate tournaments (with quite big prizes) when I was improving because an improving player's grade is always in advance of the rating. Intermediate was usually under 140 BCF, which is like 1720 FIDE and I was playing at more like 1900, a lot of the time. Why not win some tournaments, so long as you don't artificially depress your own grade or rating?

Right.  As long as you don't lose games on purpose, to artificially lower your rating, it's not cheating.   I once played an 8 year old kid, whose father was a Master and trained him daily.   This kid had a rating of 1396, but he played like a 2000 player.   He whooped my @$$ in the final round of the tournament, on board 1.   I would have won that tournament, if it wasn't for him.   But am I bitter?   You betcha.  lol   Would I feel guilty about doing the same thing to someone else.   Heck no.   lol   Btw, he went on to become an IM.   

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Epiloque wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
JeffGreen333 wrote:
Epiloque wrote:
JeffGreen333 wrote:
PeasantElevator wrote:

Haven’t played OTB since march

Yeah, this pandemic is slowing down OTB ratings even more than usual.   

lol I am uscf 950. If I wanted to I could go to under 1k tourneys, but that would be sandbagging

Technically it is, but what's wrong with saving your rating, to give yourself a better chance of winning?   Lots of players do that.   I've even thought of doing it myself.   My official USCF rating is something like 1470, but I feel like I'm playing at an 1800 level now.   I'm sure I could win 2 or 3 class tournaments (under 1500 and under 1600) until my rating caught up to my strength.   Especially now that I'm eligible for senior consolation prizes, it might be worthwhile.   Assuming I can still memorize my opening repertoire at my age.  lol

Quite right. I won loads of Intermediate tournaments (with quite big prizes) when I was improving because an improving player's grade is always in advance of the rating. Intermediate was usually under 140 BCF, which is like 1720 FIDE and I was playing at more like 1900, a lot of the time. Why not win some tournaments, so long as you don't artificially depress your own grade or rating?

bc I would be playing against 5-10 year olds. Showing up and crushing their dreams would make me feel like a jerk, and besides I can just go to a regular tourney and win 1/3 games to get more rating then I would winning the entire under 1k tourney. That would be like Magnus showing up to a under 2k tourney bc he does not have a uscf rating and saying "huh, ez money"

I beat a few kids, back in the day, but none of them cried or looked crushed.   They're used to losing once in a while.   I've also been beaten by a couple of kids.   I think I was more crushed by my losses than they were.   lol

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I had an ongoing chess feud with a kid who got a doctorate in Physics or something, same as my son, and he became a GM. I tended to usually beat him, because he was ten or twelve and I was in my late 30s, at the peak of my powers, with a strong winning instinct. That's except the last time we ever played. We hadn't played for nearly a year and in that time he'd become 1700 FIDE but was playing like a 2250 and he slaughtered me. He's called Stewart Haslinger. 

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MarkGrubb wrote:

Your opponent is entitled to play to the end. There is no etiquette that requires resignation. The reason for resigination is so the 'losing' player can choose not to play out the position, not to help the 'winning' player to victory. I understand that this may be frustrating for some.

100% agreed.

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True, Epiloque.  I can't argue with that.

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If youre not able to win a winning position because you get flagged then you deserved to lose that game and need to work on your time management or play longer time formats and if you end up blundering your lead in a winning position then you deserve to lose or draw that game if you are good at the game you win games you should win

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practiceO wrote:

Learn to play from behind, you'll find that a lot more games are winnable when you play towards the end instead of conceding as soon as things don't go your way.

 

This, one thousand times. Pulling out a W after losing a few power pieces is the best.

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I'm talking about FIDE rating not chess.com rating guys. It's a different ball game altogether

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Guys, this thread is dead. No need to argue any further.

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let it die, we have nothing more to argue about

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Aaaargh, it's 'im! Abandon ship, mateys!!

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nah

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shhh

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Ok

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He left the thread lol and dont' bump the thread

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He left the thread cause he knows he is a clown and can't argue with logic.

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lmao

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this is stupid