Why is everyone low rated so ridiculously good?

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Another thing, the rating difference is not 700. You haven't been around 2 200 all the time (against 1500 - 1599 rating you have been around 2 200 rating in 4 out of 14 games), in 2 games you were obviously underrated with sub 2 000 rating, but most of the time you were around 2 100.

In any case, in the case of 2 100 (which was the rating you had most commonly against 1500s) vs people with an average of 1 550 rating (let's round it up for people between 1 500 and 1599), that is 550 rating difference, not 700.

90% against 550 is a little low as it should be 96%, I admit, but it is still only 14 games, which is not that many games to draw conclusions. Even 100 games is a small pool.

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maybe because half of chess.com is full of cheaters, so new players use cheating sites like Stockfish and stuff like that to elo grind

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Don't play rapid, its loaded..1200 will players that plan six moves deep and 85% of their moves are (best) move..

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chesssblackbelt wrote:

... im 2200 on chess.com. i might get 2500 on lichess right now. i'm getting close to it

For a decent length of time Lichess would start people at 1500 while Chess.com would start them at 1200. There are still a lot of people from then and thus a 300 point difference is fairly normal.

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chesssblackbelt wrote:

its broken. people on lichess are hanging mate in 1s at 2550 lol

During the Covid lockdown with big money, long time control tournaments with arbiters doing zoom monitoring of the players (two windows, one showing the players and the other showing the screens the players were playing on) I watched one GM in time trouble erroneously allow a mate in one and the other GM also in time trouble missing it (that final round game determining first place for the tournament ended up drawn).

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animalcookies wrote:

(I'm no classically trained chess player)

Wait, WHAT ?

What is a "classically trained chess player" ?

Chess players always start off as self trained, unless we talk russian chessplayers during the soviet union.

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I’m can beat everyone in my family but I’m under rated, 400?
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LeftSillyRocket wrote:
I’m can beat everyone in my family but I’m under rated, 400?

I could beat everyone in my school, college, and family, town and I'm only 1200 rapid and su c at blitz, bullet...

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chesssblackbelt wrote:

i think at higher ratings chess.com and lichess are meant to even out. but i just beat a 2700 on lichess lool

Lichess is 300 pts weaker than Chess.com.

I tried FIDE arena (the new FIDE chess site) and the level there seems to be a good bit higher than Chess.com

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Wizadrymailstrom wrote:
LeftSillyRocket wrote:
I’m can beat everyone in my family but I’m under rated, 400?

I could beat everyone in my school, college, and family, town and I'm only 1200 rapid and su c at blitz, bullet...

Its not an easy game, thats for sure.

I started on this site over a decade ago and when i started I thought I was a "good player"-- damn, was I wrong!

1300 level for about a year, so embarrassing. Took me a few years just to reach 1500

Over the years I worked my way up to 2000. Takes a lot of practice, unless you are a genius

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ChrisZifo wrote:
Wizadrymailstrom wrote:
LeftSillyRocket wrote:
I’m can beat everyone in my family but I’m under rated, 400?

I could beat everyone in my school, college, and family, town and I'm only 1200 rapid and su c at blitz, bullet...

Its not an easy game, thats for sure.

I started on this site over a decade ago and when i started I thought I was a "good player"-- damn, was I wrong!

1300 level for about a year, so embarrassing. Took me a few years just to reach 1500

Over the years I worked my way up to 2000. Takes a lot of practice, unless you are a genius

To be fair 1300 rapid would put someone at 90% of all players in rapid. Better then 90%

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w! i'm a new player and didnt know how to play so i instantly lost 100 points due to major losses; however, I'm learning effective ways to checkmake using minimum pieces (mostly my rooks XD) and regained my points up to 350! ik im a noob but i hope one day ill reach 1000!

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chesssblackbelt wrote:
ChrisZifo wrote:
Wizadrymailstrom wrote:
LeftSillyRocket wrote:
I’m can beat everyone in my family but I’m under rated, 400?

I could beat everyone in my school, college, and family, town and I'm only 1200 rapid and su c at blitz, bullet...

Its not an easy game, thats for sure.

I started on this site over a decade ago and when i started I thought I was a "good player"-- damn, was I wrong!

1300 level for about a year, so embarrassing. Took me a few years just to reach 1500

Over the years I worked my way up to 2000. Takes a lot of practice, unless you are a genius

I don't think you have to be a genius. I'm young and my parents spend money on coaching and tournaments so I got it really fast.

Looking at your profile it says you are in the 99.6% percentile of Bullet players. That is a very very high level, and I honestly think you have a natural talent. Even with lessons, the vast majority of people cant make accurate calculations to get to that level.

By the way, your profile says you have a FIDE rating of 1420? That seems like a really big gap between that and your ratings on here, right?? Why is that?

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This^^^^.

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You are wrong. I have been playing for 10 years, over 10K games, and happy to be at 2000. And I certainly dont have a low IQ. Reality is, you have a natural ability. Sure, lessons and pratice help-- but the vast majority of people wont reach even 2000 with loads lessons. It is a tough game!

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chesssblackbelt wrote:

Kids learn chess quicker.

Well I am sure there is some truth in the idea that kids can learn things very fast, and older people learn slowly or not at all (depending on the age). But I still think if you take a class of high school kids and give them all chess lessons, some will reach 2000 (the top 10%), some will reach 1700, some will reach 1500 (probably the majority) and a lot wont understand the game at all. I dont know for sure. It is all guesswork. But the chess.com percentiles give you an idea of how "rare" you are as a player, I certainly dont think you can say it is just beginners that are below you.

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Wizadrymailstrom wrote:
LeftSillyRocket wrote:
I’m can beat everyone in my family but I’m under rated, 400?

I could beat everyone in my school, college, and family, town and I'm only 1200 rapid and su c at blitz, bullet...

This is the new world of chess. All the information is available for everyone, and a beginner with a high learning ability can teach himself a lot of chess.

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chesssblackbelt wrote:
ChrisZifo wrote:
chesssblackbelt wrote:

Kids learn chess quicker.

Well I am sure there is some truth in the idea that kids can learn things very fast, and older people learn slowly or not at all (depending on the age). But I still think if you take a class of high school kids and give them all chess lessons, some will reach 2000 (the top 10%), some will reach 1700, some will reach 1500 (probably the majority) and a lot wont understand the game at all. I dont know for sure. It is all guesswork. But the chess.com percentiles give you an idea of how "rare" you are as a player, I certainly dont think you can say it is just beginners that are below you.

Idk I'm not even titled yet, don't think you can be good without a title. I'm better at other hobbies

I dont want to waste your time or mine with a forum argument.

But I will say this, there are 170 Million people on chess.com.

There are around 19,000 titled players.

So if only titled players are good then it means 169,980,000 people are bad or just plain "average". And, if you think about it, you couldn't use the word average.

Anyways, it seems like you are a very talented and motivated young guy, Good luck!

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Go look at my two loses. This is why people are upset with unfair play.

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I just came here. I don't think all be staying. All try lichess instead. My first two loses in rapid.