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Shaikidow

Who would it be? I have so many ideas.

Kasparpov? Morphischer? Carlspablenca? Hikaruana? Kramnand? My username without the number? HIKARLSEN?

Of all the proposed ideas, I think Kasparpov and Hikarlsen would be the strongest two, based on the average top ratings and the combinations of complementary strengths.

goodbye27

KasparLagrave

snoozyman

Alexandra Botezvinnik

Hikaru Nakamorphy

Mikhail Talpolav

Garry Kaspassky 

Tigran Petrosianand 

 

IcyAvaleigh
Nakamiri (the strength of naka with the skill to draw the game when there is no win)
NikkiLikeChikki
Vasilelizabeth Harmov.
Shaikidow
slabflow wrote:
Talekhine93 wrote:

Who would it be? I have so many ideas.

Kasparpov? Morphischer? Carlspablenca? Hikaruana? Kramnand? My username without the number? HIKARLSEN?

Of all the proposed ideas, I think Kasparpov and Hikarlsen would be the strongest two, based on the average top ratings and the combinations of complementary strengths.

Based on average ratings you probably wouldn't want the guy who was not only never a world champ, but only made it to one candidate's tournament where he finished on 50%... meaning he's a top player, but not world champion material.

For comparison I think Naka crossed 2800, once, accidentally after a nice string of victories in his mid 20s.

Carlsen crossed 2800 at age 18 and has been there ever since.

Based on average ratings, said guy calcs like a monster and the shorter the time controls are, the more he slaps. That's a good skill to have when your fusion partner draws half of all his WC matches in the classical portion, no? 😃 Also, you'd be hard-pressed to consider crossing the 2800-point barrier as something accidental, much less to complain about Hikaru's comparative strength when Hikarlsen's average top rating still beats out Kasparpov's by a long shot.

If I were to powerscale this, I'd say that Kasparpov's fusion multiplier would be greater due to their immense mutual familiarity through an intense decades-spanning rivalry (as well as the dialectic unity of their opposing styles), so he'd have very good chances of winning in the classical portion; however, if he only drew there, then it's not even a question - Hikarlsen would win in the rapids, and in case he didn't, he would draw then just STOMP in blitz.

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Oh, and Caruarlsen would probably be Lc0-level.

Shaikidow
Epiloque wrote:

Carlsen Nakamara. You keep Carlsen's skills, and gain Naka's speed abilities. He is able to play at his perfect skill level, and do it in less than half a second for each move.

If a Caruarlsen, then it just goes off of Carlsen's top skills, since he is better than Caruana. They do not combine skills, it is just carlsens skills

There's a lot to be said about Caruana's style of play and preparation which may not be obvious going by his World Championship games alone. Carlsen *was* very extensively prepared for that match (as he should've been), but his general strategy for tournament settings isn't necessarily dependent on the fruits of his WC match research labour; aside from using some leftover Sveshnikov ideas, he mostly plays solidly until the game becomes relatively dry and boring, then he wins by outwilling his somewhat fatigued opponents. I don't think I could say the same for Caruana; he never shows laziness and he plays comparatively much sharper from the outset, even if he doesn't really take any major risks... and as evidenced by his legendary Sinquefield Cup performance and Carlsen's other WC matches, sharp preparation and clinical precision from the get-go is one of the only ways to take a game off of Magnus in a 1v1 match. I like when Magnus plays somewhat riskier chess, but his preference to avoid certain middlegame complications and even tactically draw games is his weakness, a price he pays for choosing to keep his stamina.

Based on that, I don't know if Carlsen could defeat Carlsen, but Caruarlsen definitely could.

Shaikidow
slabflow wrote:

Which is why a combo like Kasparov and Carlsen would be good.

I think it's safe to say they'd be the most OP fusion yet, although that'd be based more on their respective individual top forms than their synergy multiplier. Not that their styles aren't complementary, I just wanna try applying some word-of-God Dragon Ball logic concerning rivalry power boosts. grin.png

The main question, though, is definitely the following: which fusion would be stronger? Kasparlsen, or Carlsparov?