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May 12, 2007
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That is a very nice puzzle. :) I wonder how many of these puzzles are just setup to be cool...and how many actually occurred in real games.
Pretty fun, but i can't figure out the movement pattern of the lamp shades. Are those new pieces to chess?
thumbs up!
geoff wrote:
Pretty fun, but i can't figure out the movement pattern of the lamp shades. Are those new pieces to chess?
what??
cool puzzle good work!
Nice
It's a great way to explain (show) the term "zugzwang" rarely spoking out side off chess!
this 100% draw n it's not zugzwang!
Amazing.......cool.....Wow......Excellent......hmm.......
zupampa wrote:
this 100% draw n it's not zugzwang!
I ain't on about a draw, I'm on about forcing the openent in to changing his Queen, which is definetly Zugzwang!
i was gonna say, "why don't u use that nice 3-move fork right there?" then i realized, "that's not a forced fork, is it..." that's a great solution.
and I like the pun. "Fork you!" lol.
Nov 24, 2008
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zupampa wrote:
this 100% draw n it's not zugzwang!
you're right it's not zugswang but it's also not a draw, after black recaptures the Q white can play Kf3 with a winning K and P ending 
Sorry MM78 but for me it's Zugzwang up to the point where white takes the Queen, show me how black could avoid the capturing of the Queen, all the 5 moves are forced, Black does not want do play does moves, but has no choice!
Nov 24, 2008
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Gab, you're absolutely right that all the moves are forced, but the essence of zugswang is that the side to move is not in immediate danger in the position in which they find themselves. In other words they would be better off if it were the other side's move, examples are king and pawn endings where whichever side moves loses.
In this particular case I think you would agree that at no stage would black be better off if it was white's move.
here's a a quote from wikipedia:
The term zugzwang is frequently used in chess. A player whose turn it is to move who has no move that does not worsen their position is said to be in zugzwang (Soltis 2003:78). Thus every move would make their position worse, and they would be better off if they could pass and not move. Sometimes different chess authors use the term zugzwang in different ways (Flear 2004:11-12).