Illegal Position Contest!

Turns out this position is illegal:
It's legal if it's a Rook on b3 and a pawn on c2, but not the other way around.

this one feels legal
but i dont know
I have done some tests that make me fairly confident that it is illegal, but I could be wrong, just like how EvinSung proved my previous position was legal.
Try to construct a proof game, and see if it is possible; then you will know.

I have done some tests that make me fairly confident that it is illegal, but I could be wrong...(#7625)
I think you're safe with this one. After three retractions, Black has no retraction to undo the check by the a4 bishop.
Turns out this position is illegal:
It's legal if it's a Rook on b3 and a pawn on c2, but not the other way around.
Blathy's creation is legal, even in the full setting with the knight on e1. We are sure though that at least one promotion has taken place. On which square?

I have done some tests that make me fairly confident that it is illegal, but I could be wrong...(#7625)
I think you're safe with this one. After three retractions, Black has no retraction to undo the check by the a4 bishop.
rc4 to b4

I have done some tests that make me fairly confident that it is illegal, but I could be wrong...(#7625)
I think you're safe with this one. After three retractions, Black has no retraction to undo the check by the a4 bishop.
rc4 to b4
I had just realized I overlooked a retraction and made a proof game, but you've already posted one. I'll show mine, since it's shorter.

Turns out this position is illegal:
It's legal if it's a Rook on b3 and a pawn on c2, but not the other way around.
Blathy's creation is legal, even in the full setting with the knight on e1. We are sure though that at least one promotion has taken place. On which square?
Oh I didn't think of that..white could promote one of the edge pawns to something which could then provide a capture.
Oh I didn't think of that..white could promote one of the edge pawns to something which could then provide a capture.
RRRRRRight! (that is to say only one promotion square is certain) If I were to write down the hints for retrograde solving, that trick would be in the top 3!
I keep missing those discovered checks, but this should fix everything:
You can uncapture a rook or knight on black's first retraction move which makes it (narrowly) legal.

In position #7636, black's rook starting on h8 was clearly captured by a white piece on its starting square or on g8, because black's dark-squared bishop was never able to get off its starting square with pawns still on g7 and e7.
In position #7636, black's rook starting on h8 was clearly captured by a white piece on its starting square or on g8, because black's dark-squared bishop was never able to get off its starting square with pawns still on g7 and e7.
True and we already "rectified the count" (bridge term) for that! The hard issues are on other places.
Thanks nice work
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