11 year-old vs. NM - please analyse :)

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nobodyreally

This is not a matter of opinion. Ask any strong player, they will tell you the same.

Thunder_Penguin

true

SergeyV

Yeah

LesuhAn

rajnikant001-My comment was in response to comment #129 which has apparently now been deleted.

ShivanD2001 thanks for the 1st 2 comments, wonder what the 3rd said...

TheGreatOogieBoogie-thanks for taking the time to do that :)

FMNR & mashanator-I'm not a strong player. However, when I'm playing a stronger player, I know I feel like I have a better chance while I have more pieces on the board. As the pieces start to disappear, I start to feel more out of my league, vulnerable and kinda like a sitting duck.

edit- post crossed, looks like Thunder_Penguin & SergeyG concur :)

TheGreatOogieBoogie

Yeah I have personal weakness I need to work on.  I knew there'd be flaws, just not where (or else I'd edit them out)

Fewer pieces doesn't always mean simpler since one needs great calculation and technique to win certain won endgames that hang on a tightrope.  But with lots of pieces there's always a danger that you'll get outcalculated either into an inferior endgame or off the board.  If there's lots of tension then it all boils down to whoever has the better calculation and judgment ability.  Sure the stronger guy can make a mistake and even a big one, but the weaker guy would have to see it and know why it is so.

At least that's my experience.  I'm not an FM so why would I play something that requires FM or above ability to play and understand?  I like to keep things simple, but not simple enough for a weaker guy to comprehend. 

LesuhAn

That does makes sense to me, Oogie Boogie. :) Your analysis of the game was much appreciated & thanks for sharing your insights. :) :)

NabeelRafid
LesuhAn wrote:

You're socially inept, aren't you? Because that was rude. I stated that he was an NM. I stated that his USCF rating was close to 2100. I did not however state that his play was at a 2100 level. Perhaps, he experimented a bit knowing his rating was well over double his opponent's rating. Perhaps, he gave the 11 year-old kid some chances and didn't want to absolutely crush him...

who are you talking about?

LesuhAn

Nabeel, My comment was in response to comment #129 which has now been deleted.

NabeelRafid

oh ok 

ppandachess
LesuhAn wrote:

Hi, My son participated in a one of those open tournaments where you just don't know who'll show up. In the g/30 d5 game I'm posting he was playing a National Master, who is more than double his rating. Actually, in all his games that day he was outgunned by a minimum of almost 900 to almost 1300 points.

He tried his best and kept a positive attitude throughout 4 g/30 d5 losses and 6 blitz losses. I want to help him at least learn from these losses however I am not skilled enough to offer helpful analysis. 

If someone could help us out, that would be awesome!

 



Hi,

As a general approach, I would not suggest playing the exchange (Bxc6) against stronger players. This leads to a quieter and more positional game.

Hope that helps

http://chess-teacher.com/1632.html

LesuhAn

Thank you for the advice, tthechesstitan. :)

nobodyreally
mashanator wrote:
nobodyreally wrote:

This is not a matter of opinion. Ask any strong player, they will tell you the same.

an obvious consensus that they would, indeed, prefer to be in a middlegame as opposed to an endgame when playing a stronger player, or have a concrete, irrefutable study that suggests the same, correct?

i don't know. Does playing over 250 OTB games against 2550-2700 players (considerebly stronger than me) and 40 years of experience count as a reasonable survey? AND I consider myself to be an engame expert. Well, at least it's my favorite hunting ground.

nobodyreally
mashanator wrote:
nobodyreally wrote:
mashanator wrote:
nobodyreally wrote:

This is not a matter of opinion. Ask any strong player, they will tell you the same.

an obvious consensus that they would, indeed, prefer to be in a middlegame as opposed to an endgame when playing a stronger player, or have a concrete, irrefutable study that suggests the same, correct?

i don't know. Does playing over 250 OTB games against 2550-2700 players (considerebly stronger than me) and 40 years of experience count as a reasonable survey? AND I consider myself to be an engame expert. Well, at least it's my favorite hunting ground.

You're not actually serious, are you? What level your playing ability and experience is at is completely irrelevant, and basing any results that require a large sample of information from a large amount of people off of that is laughable.

Hate to pull rank as a rule, but in your case I make an exception.

You simply don't know what you are talking about. And I do.

End of story. Goodbye. (Sorry for this LesuhAn)

Tracking turned off!

LesuhAn

Okay, I didn't want to intervene, too much, since I am still learning chess and my opinion doesn't have the knowledge and experience to back it up.

However, I feel FMNR does have years of experience playing extremely strong players, being an extremely strong player and discussing chess with extremely strong players. Yes, he has an extremely strong opinion on the matter, however, I think he's earned it. I also suspect he's right. I doubt I'll ever get to be a good enough chess player to concur, haha. Perhaps, my son will. I'll remember to ask him someday. :)

Trolling must have a new meaning that I'm not familiar with. FMNR very kindly emailed me a detailed high-level analysis of my son's game, quickly reported abusive comments on this thread, and apologized to me before signing off my thread. I'll take trolls like him, anyday. :)

LesuhAn

There are things we are all sure of without taking surveys and polls and checking statistics. I doubt anyone wants to do the work to absolutely prove the other incorrect. There's no need for all the angst, really. Sometimes the wisest choice is just to agree to disagree.

InDetention

This is a troll.  (click troll) 

LesuhAn

InDetention, thank you for the clarification, Lol! Yep, no new meaning!

InDetention
LesuhAn wrote:

InDetention, thank you for the clarification, Lol! Yep, no new meaning!

Trolls have their voting tournaments  here and here. lol

LesuhAn

How funny! I wonder if there are people that troll the troll voting threads. :D

InDetention
LesuhAn wrote:

How funny! I wonder if there are people that troll the troll voting threads. :D

lol