Am I cheating?

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Boyangzhao

After playing a corrospondence game, my opponent accused me of using a engine or a book:


Can anyone tell me if they think I was cheating in this game or not?

Robert_New_Alekhine

You're too young to cheat. Definitely not. 

Boyangzhao
icyviper wrote:

this seems to be missing some final moves...

for example  37. Kd3 Kg8 38. a3 Kf7 39. b4 and now  39...cxb 40. axb a4 doesnt work because after 41. Kxd4 the king is within range of catching the pawn.

4...h6 is not a good move because it gives white time to castle/fully develop and begin dangerous plans.  Black, meanwhile, needs 3(!) moves to castle.  5...Nf6 should of course be met with 6. e5 .  Something simple is enough:  6. e5 Ne4 7. Re1 Nc5 8. Nxd4

Using the chess.com computers, I already know what you just said.

wanmokewan

Did you use an engine during the game? Did you receive any outside help during the game? If the answer to both questions is no, you didn't cheat.

wanmokewan

I feel the need to point out that people on the Internet can be sore losers. They would rather accuse you of cheating than accept their loss and move on.

Boyangzhao

I do not think that my opponent was a sore loser, just a misguided accuser.

Boyangzhao
wanmokewan wrote:

Did you use an engine during the game? Did you receive any outside help during the game? If the answer to both questions is no, you didn't cheat.

I definitely know I didn't cheat, but I have to prove it, so I created this forum so the chess.com members can have a say.

here's the game, by the way:

 

https://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=134092858 

wanmokewan

You don't have to prove anything. Anyone who makes an accusation of cheating just because they lost is a sore loser in my opinion.

Boyangzhao

If an inoccent man goes to trial for.. let's say burglary, and he know's he is inoccent, he still needs to prove himself, in court, because there is a person who thinks that man robbed his house, so that man has to show proof to the person, so she know he didn't rob their house.

thegreat_patzer

that is correct, just because someone SAYS they think you are using an engine matters very little.  cc has said that if your not engine cheating you shouldn't worry about it.  the Point is that chess engines play very different than even strong players.  you can see this , if you take your typical game and look for the engines top recommendations on every moves.  many times they look odd.  they are not designed to "make sense" to you, they are picked by an algorithm that ensures they don't lose the game.

futher information cannot be given outside of the proper group.

in a phrase-- don't worry about it.

Boyangzhao

If my opponent reports me, the admins can look at this forum and see I'm not cheating.

PapaGeorgie-OLD

I stink at chess so bad I wish someone would accuse me of cheating! Tongue Out

wanmokewan

The staff have their own methods of detecting cheating. They can see your game archive; there's no need to make a topic like this.

Ziggy_Zugzwang

What's the chess.com policy of a married man cheating his wife for another woman  ? Can the player be banned if video evidence etc is provided ?

Robert_New_Alekhine
Ziggy_Zugzwang wrote:

What's the chess.com policy of a married man cheating his wife for another woman  ? Can the player be bannned if video evidence etc is provided ?

See #3.

And staff rules prohibit that, though that's not listed as cheating. 

IamBaldrick
Boyangzhao wrote:

If an inoccent man goes to trial for.. let's say burglary, and he know's he is inoccent, he still needs to prove himself, in court, because there is a person who thinks that man robbed his house, so that man has to show proof to the person, so she know he didn't rob their house.

No, he doesn't.  Innocent until proven guilty.

The prosecutor has to prove that you DID rob the house. And if he does it's your job to proof he's wrong.

if you have to worry about people accusing you on chess-sites, it's like a day job.

Besides, someone who resigns in a (probably) drawn position needs not to be taken serious.

ChessOfPlayer

I can't tell if  you were with another women...

Boyangzhao

nevermind the story.

CrystalMoon

This topic is best discussed here ------>https://www.chess.com/groups/home/cheating-forum

 

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