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saravanan84
Jan 10, 2025
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#61
Optimissed wrote:
kit440 wrote:
arivedal wrote:

a brilliant move is a move where it is the only good move in a position and you have to play a correct combination of moves to guarantee yourself an advantage. it has nothing to do with whether or not the engine saw the move or if it is better than the best move

wrong the brilliant move is a move that the engine had to go higher depth to see why it is so good wich means its better than the best move

That's just what some people think; not an established fact. My own opinion is that "brilliant move" is awarded randomly. Best move is often what it says but not usually, because the computer isn't set for deep analysis. An excellent move may be poor and a good move could be the losing move.

Computer will change analysis sometimes and don't think it is better than the world champion of people some people beat it

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saravanan84
Jan 10, 2025
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#62
saravanan84 wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
kit440 wrote:
arivedal wrote:

a brilliant move is a move where it is the only good move in a position and you have to play a correct combination of moves to guarantee yourself an advantage. it has nothing to do with whether or not the engine saw the move or if it is better than the best move

wrong the brilliant move is a move that the engine had to go higher depth to see why it is so good wich means its better than the best move

That's just what some people think; not an established fact. My own opinion is that "brilliant move" is awarded randomly. Best move is often what it says but not usually, because the computer isn't set for deep analysis. An excellent move may be poor and a good move could be the losing move.

Computer will change analysis sometimes and don't think it is better than the world champion of people some people beat it

But it is 3700 so for most people it is good optimized is write if you are 6000 elo but if you are 900 elo use analysis

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saravanan84
Jan 10, 2025
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#63

Brilliant is better than best in the fried liver opening

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magipi
Jan 10, 2025
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#64
saravanan84 wrote:

Brilliant is better than best in the fried liver opening

Nothing is "better than best". It's impossible.

The definition of "brilliant" is roughly: a sacrifice that is good.

The "best move" is the engine's top choice. Nothing is better than that.

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prashantsrikanth
Jan 11, 2025
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#65
x-9140319185 wrote:
It’s engine terminology. An excellent move is a move that is slightly worse than the best move. A brilliant move basically means you found a slightly better move than the engine’s initial recommendation.

A brilliant move is the best move and the difference is that a brilliant move is harder to find and gives material

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magipi
Jan 11, 2025
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#66
prashantsrikanth wrote:
x-9140319185 wrote:
It’s engine terminology. An excellent move is a move that is slightly worse than the best move. A brilliant move basically means you found a slightly better move than the engine’s initial recommendation.

A brilliant move is the best move and the difference is that a brilliant move is harder to find and gives material

This is absolutely not true.

What you wrote is a misconception that some user invented many years ago. It's nonsense, but it lives and spreads like a virus.

A "brilliant move" is sacrifice that is good. It is not necessarily the best move (but it has to be close). It not necessarily difficult to find: in fact, most "brilliant moves" are obvious short-term sacrifices that are very easy to find.

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cccheschamp
Apr 18, 2025
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#67

brilliant is the best

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LosStefosos
May 1, 2025
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#68

Wow

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Free_hobbyist
May 12, 2025
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#69

I got "brilliant" move 2 times. In both cases there was a sacrificing idea to force checkmate after a tactic of 3 moves or more. Although I loses so many matches. My play looks like one wants to make fun! lol

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prashantsrikanth
Jun 17, 2025
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#70
magipi wrote:
prashantsrikanth wrote:
x-9140319185 wrote:
It’s engine terminology. An excellent move is a move that is slightly worse than the best move. A brilliant move basically means you found a slightly better move than the engine’s initial recommendation.

A brilliant move is the best move and the difference is that a brilliant move is harder to find and gives material

This is absolutely not true.

What you wrote is a misconception that some user invented many years ago. It's nonsense, but it lives and spreads like a virus.

A "brilliant move" is sacrifice that is good. It is not necessarily the best move (but it has to be close). It not necessarily difficult to find: in fact, most "brilliant moves" are obvious short-term sacrifices that are very easy to find.

My apologies. A brilliant move is close to the best move and the difference is that a brilliant move sacs material

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bambubambi
Jun 17, 2025
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#71

nah

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bambubambi
Jun 17, 2025
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#72
cccheschamp wrote:

brilliant is the best

true

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Flying-Banana-0604
Aug 7, 2025
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#73
Confused-psyduck wrote:

Don't get too stuck up on that, it is Just computer terminology, doesn't matter If You made a book, best, excellent or brilliant move, in the end it just means that You played the first or second best move according to the computer. What's more important, rather than being amazed by one's own moves, Is to analyse mistakes and blunders I order to make real progress. Indeed, even a 600 elo guy can make a brilliant move, but It means nothing, the following 15 blunders played are what Is Important.

Bro we don't make 15 blunders in a single game... 🥲

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umbravolt
Aug 8, 2025
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#74

These are the moves you can get from worst to best. Blunder, mistake, inaccuracy, book, good, excellent, best, great and brilliant.

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umbravolt
Aug 8, 2025
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#75

A best move is the best move in the position, but nothing special. A great move is the only move that works in the position, basically a great find. A brilliant move is when you sacrifice material and it is a good sacrifice, but brilliant moves aren’t always the best move.

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Stifler1987
Aug 8, 2025
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#76

lol

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umbravolt
Aug 8, 2025
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#77
Stifler1987 wrote:

lol

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Champion4699
Aug 11, 2025
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#78

Best move is a little bit better than a excellent move.

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magipi
Aug 11, 2025
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#79
jobsidian wrote:

These are the moves you can get from worst to best. Blunder, mistake, inaccuracy, book, good, excellent, best, great and brilliant.

This is obviously not true. The true meaning of all these labels were already explained many times in this topic (and elsewhere).

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delcai007
Aug 11, 2025
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#80

Brilliant moves don't have to be brilliant, because a computer can't tell the difference. We have the classification only because it's popular, much like Game Review's ridiculous but flattering rating estimate.