Chess.com sneaks a cheap shot

14E.  The game is drawn even when a player exceeds the time limit if one of the following conditions exists

Opponent has 1. Lone King, 2. K+B or K+N, 3.  K+2N

Doesn't look like a win to me.

Weirdo. He can push wood. The point of blitz is that you aren't given as much time. If you run out you have thought too long. And that is your problem. The only reason they have a better position is because they used up all of their time, not leaving enough to administer the final blow. Blitz rules are different depending on where you play it. It obviosly is the case here. King alone cannot win.

They ARE giving you something. You get a draw in a position that absent clocks, you would be easily mated in.

True.

Woton: Where are you reading these rules? 

"The only reason they have a better position is because they used up all of their time, not leaving enough to administer the final blow."  Definitely true.  But, reverse is also true--the defender did not use enough time for a coherant defense.  I don't feel this should be rewarded, nor good play penalized, simply by the presence of a clock.  If the defender is down to a lone king against an overwhelming army, he should consider himself lucky to get a draw by any means.

If your opponent has run out of time, it is not relevant whether he could have checkmated you, but whether you could have checkmated him.

Exactly. Under the proposed rules, if a situation did occur where one side had a lone King, and the other side had pieces but was running really low on time, then what would happen is: the winning side would be giving away his pieces for the other side to take, and the losing side will be doing everything it can to avoid taking those pieces. Which would lead to a very ridiculous game.

Yeah if he could do that but his opponent doesn't have to take the pieces. The reverse isn't completely true. I conserved my time as to not run out. That was my wise strategy. Good for me. lol If you cannot bring your opponent to his knees and take the win in the selected amount of time then you have failed. This is fair in my mind. At least for blitz. Because the whole point of blitz is super quick time control.

It's fair. You cannot win by time. Chess is not about time, it's about checkmating your opponent. Even you have 4 hours left, you cannot checkmate your opponent.

It would be unfair if you won by time. It's not chess.

Well according to that logic, if the game ends with lone King vs long King, then whoever has more time at that point should be declared the winner.

Either that or the two players move their Kings around as fast as they can until one side runs out of time, and the other side is declared the winner.

Contrarily to popular belief (rather to be called a "popular misconception"), the term "OTB" has nothing to do with time control settings. "OTB" means "over the board", meaning a game that is played face-to-face using a physical board and pieces, as opposed to playing on a computer screen (such as an online game).

In OTB chess played with standard (over 60 minutes for each player) or rapid (15-60 minutes) time controls, putting the own king into or leaving it in check is an illegal move which must be corrected for play to resume. In OTB blitz (yes, that's not an oxymoron at all), the opponent can just take the king placed into or left in check and thus win the game. In computer/online chess, no matter the employed time controls, the program simply prevents any illegal move from being made.

USCF rulebook.

Mr. Bean ? (looking down) what do you just say ?

Exactly it would be rediculous but duh what do they have a clock for period in blitz? HMMM??? Not true bean_fischer there is clearly a clock for a reason. Chess is chess, not time involved, but when playing a timed game then clocks are important and ppl use their time how they feel is wisest. If they cannot win then too bad for them lol. There is a penalty for sluggishness.

Well, can you take a look at my posts #34 and 35? What do u think should happen in K vs K situations?

What do illegal moves have to do with tc? lol And woton it may be USCF official rules but not all tournaments play by these rules. 

Xieff

I understand what your saying.  Around here, we call that a clock gambit--you take your chances that you can survive the attack in order to win on time in the end.  I agree, good on you.  To a degree, that works, but you can get burned precisely by the fact that you can get slaughtered by playing a poor (aka thoughtless) defense against your opponents accurate offense to the point where you can't win at all (lone king)--and now it's good on him.  With the time remaining, he found a way to draw, so why should he be punished?  If you had found a way to keep just one pawn on the board, you would have won, despite being down so bad in the game.  That would have been good on you, again, even though your position was hopeless.  This sword cuts both ways, so it's best to learn how to wield it.

I'm not talking about hoping to win on time. I am talking about conserving time so that I do not run out. I do my best with the time that is given me. And I happen to think faster. So...I personally believe that the penalty for using all of your time is death. I mean you can't use more time than given to you. :/ Just a point of view. I'm not argueing about what the rules are. I am just stating my oppinion. k? :)