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Here's a cool game, it's very short:

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I don't get it, really.... how is it cool? Tongue out who's white and who's black? Gotta tell us more info, pal...

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I agree with the post above

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Chess4001 wrote:

I don't get it, really.... how is it cool? who's white and who's black? Gotta tell us more info, pal...


 I agree with you Chess4001 (who are you)

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Kozer wrote:
Chess4001 wrote:

I don't get it, really.... how is it cool? who's white and who's black? Gotta tell us more info, pal...


 I agree with you Chess4001 (who are you)


My name is Zpore, my account name is ZporeSuperMaster, and this game was from a chess book called, "Chess Traps and Zaps", by Bruce Pandolfini.  It was the first lesson in the book, but the players were anonymous, and the purpose of the book was for opening instruction.  Keep in mind if you buy the book, that the black knight is missing from the first diagram! :)

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Kozer wrote:
Chess4001 wrote:

I don't get it, really.... how is it cool? who's white and who's black? Gotta tell us more info, pal...


 I agree with you Chess4001 (who are you)


My name is Zpore, my account name is ZporeSuperMaster, and this game was from a chess book called, "Chess Traps and Zaps", by Bruce Pandolfini.  It was the first lesson in the book, but the players were anonymous, and the purpose of the book was for opening instruction.  Keep in mind if you buy the book, that the black knight is missing from the first diagram! :)

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Kozer wrote:
Chess4001 wrote:

I don't get it, really.... how is it cool? who's white and who's black? Gotta tell us more info, pal...


 I agree with you Chess4001 (who are you)


My name is Zpore, my account name is ZporeSuperMaster, and this game was from a chess book called, "Chess Traps and Zaps", by Bruce Pandolfini.  It was the first lesson in the book, but the players were anonymous, and the purpose of the book was for opening instruction.  Keep in mind if you buy the book, that the black knight is missing from the first diagram! :)

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Chess4001 wrote:

I don't get it, really.... how is it cool? who's white and who's black? Gotta tell us more info, pal...


It is totally cool, you know that, you don't have to know who's playing to enjoy chess, it's still cool!  :) of course I will tell you! :) 

My name is Zpore, my account name is ZporeSuperMaster, and this game was from a chess book called, "Chess Traps and Zaps", by Bruce Pandolfini.  It was the first lesson in the book, but the players were anonymous, and the purpose of the book was for opening instruction.  Keep in mind if you buy the book, that the black knight is missing from the first diagram! :)

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I was wondering about what happens for black if the knight takes the queen instead of the queen taking the bishop because on the surface it looks win a rook outright instead of just a pawn, however the result is not clear and its necessarily pretty or pleasant for black.. heres what it looks like:

*Edit* the last alternative variation in the analysis is a complete blunder, please disregard

 

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aj415 wrote:

I was wondering about what happens for black if the knight takes the queen instead of the queen taking the bishop because on the surface it looks win a rook outright instead of just a pawn, however the result is not clear and its necessarily pretty or pleasant for black.. heres what it looks like:

 


interesting idea, however black does not take the queen, he simply takes the queen-attacking bishop back, here's what the game looks like.

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I know he doesn't. I was asking "what if". Chess is a game of what if. You have to know how to respond IF your opponent does this or IF you do that. Behind the concrete moves on the board are exponential what ifs. 

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aj415 wrote:

I know he doesn't. I was asking "what if". Chess is a game of what if. You have to know how to respond IF your opponent does this or IF you do that. Behind the concrete moves on the board are exponential what ifs. 


You're stating the obvious, in a more elegant way, you're quote could be stated as "Chess has never been mastered, such as Checkers had been mastered by super-computers."  

  However, this is an opening position in a chess book, all of the reasonable moves have been considered.  If you applied your quote to it, you might as well be saying, "You never know if you're will do this or that, letting the queen be taken by not moving it and moving the knight instead, or you never know THIS, what if you're opponent let his queen be taken by moving the bishop instead of moving the queen out of danger, BIG Surprise, (not really).  

The chess book carefully went over the reasonable possibilities.  

That's how chess players need to think.

If you would like, I could give you the exact alternative lines from the book, "Chess Traps and Zaps", by Bruce Pandolfini, and an accompanying position.  (with the alternative lines)  Did you pay attention to my previous diagram?  

Thanks for the comment though, and thanks for the interesting idea.

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aj415 wrote:

I know he doesn't. I was asking "what if". Chess is a game of what if. You have to know how to respond IF your opponent does this or IF you do that. Behind the concrete moves on the board are exponential what ifs. 


you know, that comment was not really arguing me, you were arguing against a chess mater from a very common chess book series, who's the expert?  interesting idea again, though.

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aj415 wrote:

I know he doesn't. I was asking "what if". Chess is a game of what if. You have to know how to respond IF your opponent does this or IF you do that. Behind the concrete moves on the board are exponential what ifs. 


did you even look at the game I posted in my reply?  It said exactly the response to your alternative idea, it sai )d not to take the queen but to take the bishop, and avoid your own queen being taken, then there's a triple attack on the central passed pawn (obviously), while the queen is escaping danger, it's quite obvious that white would lose the game.  You really shouldn't fight logic, and use this information to your advantage to study the opening.  (I'm not angry, I'm just suggesting :)