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dokteur69

Hi guys 

I'm in a struggle with this game I played , I fighted my way back in the game end eventually it draws by repetition. I did not play the same moves how is this possible then ? 

I play black 

Martin_Stahl
dokteur69 wrote:

Hi guys

I'm in a struggle with this game I played , I fighted my way back in the game end eventually it draws by repetition. I did not play the same moves how is this possible then ?

I play black

The draw is by triple repetition of position 

The same position, with the same side to move, was repeated after white moves 61, 63, and 65

dokteur69

so white abused the system to get a draw . that is pretty lame .

tygxc

@3

No, white was stupid to allow the 3-fold repetition as white was winning.
Black may be happy to get away with a draw.

nklristic
dokteur69 wrote:

so white abused the system to get a draw . that is pretty lame .

No. First of all, black never had a winning position during this game, white was winning for most of the game. but all that is beside the point.

Going for a draw by repetition is not abusing the system. Even if you are otherwise completely winning (which is here not the case) the opponent would have the right to go for a draw by repetition. And if he sees it, he should do it as well.

What else should he do, lose on purpose? That makes no sense.

Sum1_5968

Wikipedia says:

Sum1_5968
dokteur69 wrote:

so white abused the system to get a draw . that is pretty lame .

No.

White didn't abuse the system.

It is perfectly legal, and anyways, the endgame is boring.

dokteur69

so my passed pawn never had a chance ?

thanks for the comments happy.png chess guy's are so nice cry

nklristic
dokteur69 wrote:

so my passed pawn never had a chance ?

The end position is a draw actually, even though white has a knight for your pawn. Of course both might mess it up and lose, but you have a somewhat more difficult task because you need to find the right plan right after Nb4 move.

The only way for you to not lose is to play Kc5 and abandon the passed pawn, going for the opponent's 2 pawns while he deals with your passed pawn, thus securing the draw at least.
Everything else loses because it wastes time. If you play the most obvious a3, white has the time to play Nd5, and his king is controlling the passed pawn still.

Afterwards, your opponent has a narrow path to the win as well, if you mess up. It goes something like this, if you do not play Kc5:

dokteur69

thanks for taking your time . Now i Understand it that my position wasnt that good like I had in mind grin.png

nklristic
dokteur69 wrote:

thanks for taking your time . Now i Understand it that my position wasnt that good like I had in mind

You're welcome. Actually on the first glance, one would think that white is winning, because king is too close to that passed pawn and he has a knight for it. But it turns out that black has just enough time to win those 2 pawns and secure a draw. If white had a bishop instead of the knight, it would be lost.

Pretty interesting position in any case.