Have you ever gotten in a total lock-up like this? Is this a draw?

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Avatar of dol2020

[Event "?"]
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[Date "????.??.??"]
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[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[Link "https://www.chess.com/play/computer?moveList=d5e5+g4g3+h2g3+f4g3+e5f4+b6b5+f4g3+b5c5+g3f3+c5d5+f3g3+d5c5+g3f2+c5d5+g2g4+d5e5+f2g3+e5f6+g3g2+f6g5+g2g3+g5f6+g4g5&fen=8%2F8%2F1k5p%2F1P1K4%2F5pp1%2F8%2F6PP%2F8+w+-+-+0+54"]

1. e4 {Time to let the queen come out.} 1... e6 {Qg4 coming soon $2} 2. Nf3 d5
{I'm coming at you $1} 3. e5 Qd7 {Don't you just love queens $2} 4. d4 b5 5. a3 c5
6. c3 c4 7. b4 Na6 8. Nfd2 Rb8 9. f4 Be7 10. g3 Bb7 11. h4 Bc6 12. Qg4 {What do
you think you're doing $2} 12... g6 13. Qf3 Nxb4 {There goes a piece.} 14. axb4 h5
15. g4 f5 16. g5 a5 17. Ba3 a4 *

I kind of did this intentionally and Black played along but still it is so odd.  

Avatar of justbefair

Yes. I can't imagine any way of avoiding a draw.

White had a chance until the very last move to have at least one open file.

Avatar of Matthew11235813
White does have a two point material advantage, so perhaps they could use a knight to take a pawn to at least open the game up.
Avatar of dol2020
Matthew11235813 wrote:
White does have a two point material advantage, so perhaps they could use a knight to take a pawn to at least open the game up.

Good point. That's what I ended up doing.

Avatar of DoYouLikeCurry

Depends if the backwards pawns can be targeted at all by either side - defo tricky to make progress but one side will likely struggle more to defend every “support” pawn in the chain

Avatar of DoYouLikeCurry

In that way, I’d say the side with more knights has the edge because of the closed position

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tbh, one side must sacrifice something, or this must be a draw.

Avatar of ElNegroCorazon

A good example of this technique of blasting open a closed position is usually seen in KID games where Black can play the Ne8 line, advancing his f and g pawns. If the whole position is locked, you have to find the pawn that's easiest to hit with a Knight to break the formation. Also, depending on the structure, one side might have more backward pawns than the other so if that is the case, we're looking for the pawn with the least amount of defenders or the one furthest from the King.

Avatar of Ironguard5s

A good example of this is a game by Capablanca which he ended up winning against a decent player (I think it was Emanuel Lasker but idk) so I think it is possible to win... but you have to sac eventually yeah.

Avatar of Just_an_average_player136

I haven't gotten that before

Avatar of ElNegroCorazon

Ironguard5s yeah, it was Lasker if memory serves. My old coach would tell me it was better to have your pawns shaped like a v rather than being reversed so I would try to look for who had more of those inverted v shapes. From there I either hit the least defended one or the furthest from the King