How can I have stopped 2. Qh5

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So white brought out the queen to h5 on the 2nd move and caused me all sorts of problems. I panicked a bit and it got a bit out of hand. But I chilled out took a breath knuckled down and fought back some position and material back. But a momentary lapse of judgement saw me release the whit bishop from a pin I had them in they took me rook and it got a bit messy there after. I think I done well to get a foot hold back in the game. Please could any one give me some advice on to react to 2.Qh5. And also any advice on how I could of handled the aftermath better.

So all this come about because of my inability to deal with 2. Qh5. And I feel that I rushed this game too.

 

Thank you guys



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Ok after a little research (on YouTube) I found out that 1. e4, e5 2. Qh5... is called the Parham attack. Looking back now after researching a little I feel 2.....Nc6 would of been the sensible move.  Also I feel after not reacting to Qh5 correctly I made more trouble for myself when I blocked 4. Qxe5+ with Qe7 I should of gone with Be7 and my queen would have still been covering c7.

Thank you

Avatar of Gamificast

Hi,

Don't worry if you mess up to an opening that you have never seen before. We have all done it.

I do agree with you - 2. ...Nc6 would have been a sensible response. This is how I would handle this opening:

This opening is not considered very good, and you have nothing to fear from it. Most people that play this opening are probably trying for Scholar's mate, or are trying to throw you off.

Good luck with your chess.

Avatar of ChessOfPlayer

Hi again Rob.  I see that you have played another standard game.  See this time you lost.  Well with every loss comes a lesson. 

Today's lesson is how to deal with the Parham Attack.

This opening is also called The Beginner Bullshit Attack


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Avatar of Jenium
rib_rob wrote:

Ok after a little research (on YouTube) I found out that 1. e4, e5 2. Qh5... is called the Parham attack. Looking back now after researching a little I feel 2.....Nc6 would of been the sensible move.  Also I feel after not reacting to Qh5 correctly I made more trouble for myself when I blocked 4. Qxe5+ with Qe7 I should of gone with Be7 and my queen would have still been covering c7.

 

Thank you

Yes, 2...Nc6 is best, but in your line with 2.. Nf3 3. Qxe5+ Be7! isn't bad either. You do 0-0 and Re8 and have the initiative.

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mmm I guess that more than an analysis itself you may need a couple of advices.

first: double check every possible capture every time there's a chance to win or lose material, when I was young a friend of mine teased me saying that "you can't play chess without pieces". you need to learn the principle of simplification

second try to look for the opening principles. for instance if you had thought about controlling the center and developing the pieces Nc6 would probably have been your first idea.

third don't panic! you will always lose GMs loses too. If you panic you can't think, just try to play the best move, and if you lose it's ok, trying your best it's the way to improve.

 

P.S.: in my sight the game itself was a mess no offence meant, for what I saw on the board I guess you played fairly better than white but it may be my personal opinion... what I really disliked of white is that he had been attacking and playing with at max 2 pieces during the whole game, that way of playing won't bring you anywhere, second he totally overlooked the developement you really had a fair chence to turn the table during the game. it's a pity you didn't saw or played 26. ...fxg2, consider first the most forcing moves when you analyze. 

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peraphs you may try to give a look to this game ti was on Nimzowitsch's my system, I think it really show how the opening principles work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvUVqnUQGC4

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ChessOfPlayer wrote:

This opening is also called The Beginner Bullshit Attack

 


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LMAO 

Avatar of rib_rob

Thank you guys for your input it is much appreciated.

@cats-not-knights your right. I need to run through every possibility then double check it before making a move.

@chessofplayers Big lessons where taken from this game most definetly even though I lost I'm a better chess player than I was yesterday.

I must admit guys I'm loving the process of playing and then afterwards analysing the game.

Avatar of pfren

2...Nf6 is a good move.

What's wrong is 3...Qe7? after which Black is a pawn down for nothing.

Following the opening principles you should play 3...Be7: Black has developed two pieces, he's ready to castle, and he can gain more time by attacking the white Queen. All that are ample compensation for the pawn.

Avatar of fishyvishy

The best way to stop Qh5 is to resign. This makes the move moot!

Avatar of rib_rob

Thank you @pfren :-)

@fishyvishy that could be the best way to stop any move haha

Avatar of NATHANKRISHNA

yes,I had also lost once like this but in a blitz game ,poor internet connection and time control forced me to be careless and hence this predicament..anyway quickly learnt and now Nc6 is my counter move and

follow the moves shown in the diagrams..we all learn from such experiences  only..

Avatar of cats-not-knights
pfren wrote:

2...Nf6 is a good move.

What's wrong is 3...Qe7? after which Black is a pawn down for nothing.

Following the opening principles you should play 3...Be7: Black has developed two pieces, he's ready to castle, and he can gain more time by attacking the white Queen. All that are ample compensation for the pawn.

I see it's playable, I didn't knew it's also good. Isn't it still way inferior to Nc6?

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By the way - I'm a very keen student of the English language. 

Would anybody explain to me the language structure behind an expression I see around here all the time - "would of" - does it mean that the would actually belonged to somebody?

Then there's also the cousin expression - "should of". 

Another one you just got to love is "prolly". 

Avatar of pfren
cats-not-knights wrote:
pfren wrote:

2...Nf6 is a good move.

What's wrong is 3...Qe7? after which Black is a pawn down for nothing.

Following the opening principles you should play 3...Be7: Black has developed two pieces, he's ready to castle, and he can gain more time by attacking the white Queen. All that are ample compensation for the pawn.

I see it's playable, I didn't knew it's also good. Isn't it still way inferior to Nc6?

Not really- it's rather a matter of taste. Not everybody likes sacrificing a pawn at move two, but on the other hand it is 100% sound gambit. Black has half a dozen good replies to this meek "opening", and 2...Nf6 is one of them.

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I see I thought that giving away the central pawn was too much, I suppose I should give a look to this opening then, I really never bothered to look at it, peraphs I never played against it if not at 1 bullets play. ty for your reply.

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<Don_frye1> "for all intensive purposes" - that's a really good one! First time I see it... :-)

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pfren wrote:

2...Nf6 is a good move.

What's wrong is 3...Qe7? after which Black is a pawn down for nothing.

Following the opening principles you should play 3...Be7: Black has developed two pieces, he's ready to castle, and he can gain more time by attacking the white Queen. All that are ample compensation for the pawn.

 

This seems like great advice. i usually play this by defending the pawn, and then attacking the Queen. But I'll try this from now on.  This same advice is given in the excellent beginner's video: 

 

https://www.chess.com/video/player/opening-principles-explained

 

(About 18 mins in...)

 

 

 

 

Avatar of LazyChessPlayer3201

I know the worst responce to 2.Qh5 and that is Ke2??

Also make note if white gets greedy and tries Qb3 in most of the lines shown so far.

and by the way if 2. Qf3 annoys you, here is a fun article.

https://www.chess.com/blog/VB84/napoleon-opening