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I played 11. Ne5 and it was my gamechanging move, i forced a checkmate with that combo.. but analyzer says it's a mistake. how is this a mistake?

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Correction, I've just checked it on PC and it says it was not a mistake.. but actually a blunder!! wth?

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oh.. black could have castled kingside..

-2.90 11... O-O 12. Bf4 Qxd4 13. Nd3 Bxc3+ 14. bxc3 Qxc3+ 15. Bd2 Qc4 16. O-O e5 17. Bb4 Re8 18. Ba3 Be6 19. Nc5 Nd4 20. Nxe6 Rxe6 21. Bb2 Ne2+ 22. Kh1 c5 23. Qd3 Qxd3

well, i didn't see that possibility grin.png

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nv080282 wrote:

I played 11. Ne5 and it was my gamechanging move, i forced a checkmate with that combo.. but analyzer says it's a mistake. how is this a mistake?

 

It was a mistake because it doesn't force mate.

As the analysis shows, there were several good defenses to it.

  • Black can castle.
  • Black can take the knight on c3 with check and then castle.
  • Black can play h5, stopping the queen's entry
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Yeah, just saw that h5 and Bxc3+ lines too. Nevermind then, i thought i played a great move

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nv080282 wrote:

oh.. black could have castled kingside..

-2.90 11... O-O 12. Bf4 Qxd4 13. Nd3 Bxc3+ 14. bxc3 Qxc3+ 15. Bd2 Qc4 16. O-O e5 17. Bb4 Re8 18. Ba3 Be6 19. Nc5 Nd4 20. Nxe6 Rxe6 21. Bb2 Ne2+ 22. Kh1 c5 23. Qd3 Qxd3

well, i didn't see that possibility

 

It's because of over-excitement and the unlikelihood of us castling in such an open position that we tend to overlook castling as a possibility.

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Mirjana_k wrote:

I have something funny happening right now! I play with a guy and we chat something about his dogs, my dogs etc. Day later I was challenged from the player who is also opponent of die other guy. He doesn’t say nothing, but in one moment I opent the chat to look, and I expected empty chat. But what I saw was very weird! It was the chat of the other guy! I don’t know how is that possible? That is scandalous!

can somebody of the staff say something about that?

Maybe I just don't understand but I don't understand the problem.  I admit I don't chat a lot.  When you chat with someone, it stays open until you close it.    Even if you close it, I think it stays available.   Whoever you are chatting with can't see your other activities, chats, messages, etc. 

I think you are saying that this other person was trying to chat with you too.  I don't see the problem. You don't have to accept a chat.  If you do, you can close it whenever you want. 

Now if what someone says is scandalous or abusive, you can report them.  

/ Also, instead of joining someone else's thread, you should start your own, or at least find one on the same topic.

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Seems like you have good answers to this particular question. Next time you want to find the answer yourself, you can click on the "analysis" tab at the top (next to Review, where you currently are), and you'll see the engine's preferred lines.  Work through them to understand what was wrong with your idea (or what you missed that would have been better).

Don't worry too much about the engine's nomenclature (mistake, blunder, brillant move, etc).  Look at the ideas the engine wants to play, and if you don't understand why they work, keep playing with them -- put in your assumed refutation and see how the engine refutes it.

This can't answer all your questions -- some positional questions require discursive answers that only a human can give.  But in a lot of cases, like this one, where concrete calculation is needed, the engine can give you pretty clear answers.  If they need more clarity still, don't hesitate to come back.

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Chess analyzers use computer logic, they don't think like you and I. 

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Mirjana_k wrote:

I don’t understand nothing about engines. I can’t follow what you are saying. I just asked how is it possible that the chat you had in a previous game, appears in the new game that you just started with totally other person. 
Sorry everybody, that I used your topic. I am clumsy with find my way on computer.😊

they are talking to me lol. you just tookover the post. 

to all participants; i think i need to learn to use analzer better. i was just pressing on 'game review' in mobile app and check my accuracy and blunder marks. wasnt aware of suggested lines.

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It would be a mistake if pawn takes the knight (red arrow), opening a direct way to the bishop (green arrow) takes the queen.

A second options for move gets an attack from Queen in h5 and mate in 2.    

Instead of take bishop you could castle.
 

 

 

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