how is this not a briliant?

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Filipixii

how is it not a briliant ? i’m playing black and at move 22 i sac my queen to take the rook and checkmate

bhushankaushish
It was not a sac it was simply bishop capture because
BlunderRaccoon

Hello! I think a brilliant has to be forcing move this is a nice sacrifice but unfortunately not forcing and you don't win material either....

CrankyMrFizz

Your 22… Qc4? move is a blunder, not a forced queen sacrifice. White does not have to take your queen. For instance, after 23. Qa1 …, there is no immediate mate threat and Black’s attack is over. You had a winning position prior to playing Qc4?. You cannot rely on your opponent to hand you checkmate by making a game losing blunder (23. Qxc4?? … ).

Playing 22… Qxa3 instead would have been devastating for White.

AssaultingChicken

That happens, in one of my games I sacced the knight forking the king and h rook because my knight was lined up with the bishop so bishop discover attacked a rook on b8 as well, so I was winning material either way. But game review marked it as “good”. I find that kinda dumb. Though, since saved analysis is gone I can’t find that game anymore. I think this should be brilliant because it’s either take or lose

AssaultingChicken

Though I could be wrong

KentexplorerchessW

because if the peice is defending checkmate then its not brilliant plus if after they take its a mate 1 then its also not brilliant

nklristic
Filipixii wrote:

how is it not a briliant ? i’m playing black and at move 22 i sac my queen to take the rook and checkmate

Because it is a blunder. He plays Qa1, and there is no checkmate.

magipi
KentexplorerchessW wrote:

because if the peice is defending checkmate then its not brilliant plus if after they take its a mate 1 then its also not brilliant

Neither half of your statement is true. There are many examples that contradict you.

Also, as it was pointed out, the Qc4 move in this position is just a missed win. Qxa3 (with the same idea but better execution) just wins, while Qc4 is just equal after Qa1.

zepharuslee2000

free rook then checkmate

Stormy-Boy-2007
Qxa3 is stronger because it is more forcing.
calmhasfun

this is though here https://www.chess.com/a/bg5LfyX4rZpi?tab=analysis

MileTime
Filipixii wrote:

how is it not a briliant ? i’m playing black and at move 22 i sac my queen to take the rook and checkmate

it doesn't force him to take it. queen takes a3 would be a brilliant

YousefAlfaely10
If he play Queen a1 the game will continue
Merciless_Boy
Filipixii wrote:

how is it not

 

a briliant ? i’m playing black and at move 22 i sac my queen to take the rook and checkmate

The move is not forced. For example, if the checkmate were forced, it would not be a brilliant. Here's an example I had several months back

 
ngl I had to restart several times because whenever I left-click, it exits the pgn page and not saving anything.
Please observe the following moves: 
Game 1: 18. Rc8
Game 2: 14. Rxh2 and 15. Qxf3
This will show why Qf4 is not brilliant.
 
 
This is a sample of the exact same moment.
KentexplorerchessW
magipi wrote:
KentexplorerchessW wrote:

because if the peice is defending checkmate then its not brilliant plus if after they take its a mate 1 then its also not brilliant

Neither half of your statement is true. There are many examples that contradict you.

Also, as it was pointed out, the Qc4 move in this position is just a missed win. Qxa3 (with the same idea but better execution) just wins, while Qc4 is just equal after Qa1.

well the first half is incorrect the second half is correct its not brilliant cuz they don't have to take taking is just a blunder but my second half is correct because in this position this would not be brilliant

thats only a great move because after you played that move the evaluation is m1 but if it was this position it would be brilliant cuz its m2

and by the way queen moves to h file is an alternative its a position where there's a best and brilliant move because if you move the to the h file they can sack there queen to stall mate making it m2 afterward check in game review yourself

KentexplorerchessW

wait since when was that a thing whenever I do that it doesn't work Im confused ussually in game review when I sack a peice its m1 on the evaluation and we where equal material it doesn't say brilliant Im confused????????/

calmhasfun

BurleyWalrus