i don't know why i lost

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darshandatta

please say what i missed i feel my position should have been defendable but still lost. i played as white.

x-5058622868

It looks like you sacrificed your defense to gain a piece. You might have a shot with 18. Nd5.

MojoJedi
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Insanistis

Looks like 17. Qd5 would have saved you.

x-5058622868

17. Qd5 looks better. It gives back the piece though. 17...exd4 18. Bxd4 Bxd4. 19. Qxd4 Qxf3. 20. h6 f6.

Edit: Looks better than the current position at least. However, black still has the threat of ...Bb7.

jonnin

8) Nxe4??   Your knight can capture his, the pawn is safe... for now, however both pawns are future targets.

10) a3 lets you keep the light bishop pointed at his king.  That piece is a hard one to give up, I would have done this.

16) gxh5?  exd4 looks very nasty to me... leads to more or less equality in material but your pawns are ruined while black has a nice structure intact, and the resulting trades make that look like a won game for black to me (???).   Taking e5 seems far better to me (?) ... his knight is still hung.  Not sure if pawn or knight is better.  Knight attacks queen, and pawn prevents knight escape...  both seem to work and I can't find one to be much better than the other (??).

GarryAlekhine

your opponent played great.i dont think you have mistake in middle game but i think you could play better in opening: 11.Bc2

i think your opponent calculated middle game so nice after sacrifice

his rating should be over than 1900

TetsuoShima
Sunshiny wrote:

It looks like you sacrificed your defense to gain a piece. You might have a shot with 18. Nd5.


i totally agree, seems like this position is a textbook example about king safety. Also to be fair it didnt look that dangerous at the start, easy to miss it when you are not looking for it. i mean who wouldnt have thought you would have that weakness on the light squares.

But its a verry good example to learn for the future.

Remellion

jonnin: 8...Nxe4!? 9. Nxe4 d5 regains the piece, and I think 10. Bd3 dxe4 11. dxe4 is best for white here. Be3 and 0-0 follow with a standard IQP situation. The idea is that white didn't want to allow black to resolve the centre so easily, hence 8. h3 wasn't best.

16. gxh5 exd4 invites all kinds of complications, which are bad for the white king's health. 16. gxh5 exd4 17. Nxd4 (17. Bxd4 Bb7! 18. Bxg7?! Bxf3! with a strong attack while reclaiming the piece.) Bxd4 18. Bxd4 (18. Rcd1 e5) Qxd4 and white's king is airy.

So instead, 16. dxe5 Bb7 17. e6!? and Ng5 to come seems good. Better than 16. Nxe5 Bxe5 17. dxe5 Ng7 18. Bh6 Rd8 and I think black holds. Both lines are still quite dicey for both sides.

17. Qd5 exd4!? leads to a huge tactical mess, with candidates 18. Nxd4, 18. Bxd4 and 18. Qxa8. I can't see much past any of this, but Bxd4 seems best? In any case 17. Qd5 is your only move to defend before it gets too hairy.

mageto

Nd5 and Ng5 could have helped alot

TetsuoShima

dont worry your opponent played very strong. Just next time think twice before you plan on taking a seemingly hanging piece, more often than not its a trap. Even if you think twice about it and cant find something, take a short walk come back and think longer about it. Only then plan on getting the piece.

TetsuoShima

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jonnin

Correct.  If black plays Nxe4 on 8 or 9 or whatever it was it becomes a fancy trade with the pawn fork.  I counted it as equal but looking harder black possibly has a somewhat better position (bishop pair and castled king, active queen).

APawnCanDream

My idea starting on move 17 (its the variation in blue). Note that if black plays Bb7 on move 17 you should have the resource d5! to close the diagonal down. I didn't look at the rest of the game, just that position.

TetsuoShima

interesting idea @ pawn.

Franky2929

I'm 1879 so my advice is worth what it's worth...

1. I think 8.h3 is nothing but a loss of time, 8. O-O  Bg4  and 9.Be2 if you're really scared of the pin,

2. To keep up on development you could have tried 9. Qe2 , I didn't look much into the position but at least it's coherent with your developement plans, you don't move twice a piece,

3. I don't know about giving up the bishop pair ...

4. I think 16. dxe5 is better because the knight can't find a way out just yet and you can get rid of his queen by Rf-d1, that develops your rook and you grab the knight with at least less risk.

Hope thet helps,

(@SupremeOverlord: you have the same rating as him so if he sucks...you suck ;p)

jonnin
Franky2929 wrote:

I'm 1879 so my advice is worth what it's worth...

1. I think 8.h3 is nothing but a loss of time, 8. O-O  Bg4  and 9.Be2 if you're really scared of the pin,

2. To keep up on development you could have tried 9. Qe2 , I didn't look much into the position but at least it's coherent with your developement plans, you don't move twice a piece,

3. I don't know about giving up the bishop pair ...

4. I think 16. dxe5 is better because the knight can't find a way out just yet and you can get rid of his queen by Rf-d1, that develops your rook and you grab the knight with at least less risk.

Hope thet helps,

(@SupremeOverlord: you have the same rating as him so if he sucks...you suck ;p)

can you look at the knight vs the pawn taking e5?  I still can't decide which is best,  leaning toward pawn but only very slightly.  That does not mean there is not something obvious in there.

TetsuoShima
jonnin wrote:
Franky2929 wrote:

I'm 1879 so my advice is worth what it's worth...

1. I think 8.h3 is nothing but a loss of time, 8. O-O  Bg4  and 9.Be2 if you're really scared of the pin,

2. To keep up on development you could have tried 9. Qe2 , I didn't look much into the position but at least it's coherent with your developement plans, you don't move twice a piece,

3. I don't know about giving up the bishop pair ...

4. I think 16. dxe5 is better because the knight can't find a way out just yet and you can get rid of his queen by Rf-d1, that develops your rook and you grab the knight with at least less risk.

Hope thet helps,

(@SupremeOverlord: you have the same rating as him so if he sucks...you suck ;p)

can you look at the knight vs the pawn taking e5?  I still can't decide which is best,  leaning toward pawn but only very slightly.  That does not mean there is not something obvious in there.

im not sure but didnt he just say that taking the pawn is betteR??

TetsuoShima
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MarisVetra

Your opponent played good chess, but you also ignored your king safety and didnt think about the iniciative that you usually give opponent after winning material. After taking knight - you should have tryed to consolidate with all resources available, instead you kept position very unstable. Now i'm not saying i wouldnt do the same if i would play some 3 minutes chess, but still i think these were 2 main mistakes - ignoring iniciative and king safety.