i was told to study GM games

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wesleyn1

but i have no clue why they make some of the moves they make so i just feel lost

kindaspongey

"... [annotated games are] infinitely more useful than bare game scores. However, annotated games vary widely in quality. Some are excellent study material. Others are poor. But the most numerous fall into a third category - good-but-wrong-for-you. ... You want games with annotations that answer the questions that baffle you the most. ..." - GM Andrew Soltis (2010)

"... If it’s instruction, you look for an author that addresses players at your level (buying something that’s too advanced won’t help you at all). This means that a classic book that is revered by many people might not be useful for you. ..." - IM Jeremy Silman (2015)https://www.chess.com/article/view/the-best-chess-books-ever

wesleyn1

im 813 in rapid what do i need to do to hit 1000

kindaspongey

"... for those that want to be as good as they can be, they'll have to work hard.

Play opponents who are better than you … . Learn basic endgames. Create a simple opening repertoire (understanding the moves are far more important than memorizing them). Study tactics. And pick up tons of patterns. That’s the drumbeat of success. ..." - IM Jeremy Silman (December 27, 2018)

https://www.chess.com/article/view/little-things-that-help-your-game

https://www.chess.com/article/view/how-to-start-out-in-chess

https://www.chess.com/news/view/a-new-years-resolution-improve-your-chess-with-new-lessons
"... In order to maximize the benefits of [theory and practice], these two should be approached in a balanced manner. ... Play as many slow games (60 5 or preferably slower) as possible, ... The other side of improvement is theory. ... This can be reading books, taking lessons, watching videos, doing problems on software, etc. ..." - NM Dan Heisman (2002)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627084053/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman19.pdf
"... If it’s instruction, you look for an author that addresses players at your level (buying something that’s too advanced won’t help you at all). This means that a classic book that is revered by many people might not be useful for you. ..." - IM Jeremy Silman (2015)
https://www.chess.com/article/view/the-best-chess-books-ever
Here are some reading possibilities that I often mention:
Simple Attacking Plans by Fred Wilson (2012)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708090402/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review874.pdf
http://dev.jeremysilman.com/shop/pc/Simple-Attacking-Plans-77p3731.htm
Logical Chess: Move by Move by Irving Chernev (1957)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708104437/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/logichess.pdf
The Most Instructive Games of Chess Ever Played by Irving Chernev (1965)
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/most-instructive-games-of-chess-ever-played/
Winning Chess by Irving Chernev and Fred Reinfeld (1948)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708093415/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review919.pdf
Back to Basics: Tactics by Dan Heisman (2007)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708233537/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review585.pdf
https://www.chess.com/article/view/book-review-back-to-basics-tactics

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5856bd64ff7c50433c3803db/t/5895fc0ca5790af7895297e4/1486224396755/btbtactics2excerpt.pdf
Discovering Chess Openings by GM John Emms (2006)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627114655/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen91.pdf
Openings for Amateurs by Pete Tamburro (2014)
http://kenilworthian.blogspot.com/2014/05/review-of-pete-tamburros-openings-for.html
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/openings-for-amateurs/
https://www.mongoosepress.com/catalog/excerpts/openings_amateurs.pdf
Chess Endgames for Kids by Karsten Müller (2015)
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/chess-endgames-for-kids/
http://www.gambitbooks.com/pdfs/Chess_Endgames_for_Kids.pdf
A Guide to Chess Improvement by Dan Heisman (2010)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708105628/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review781.pdf
Studying Chess Made Easy by Andrew Soltis (2009)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708090448/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review750.pdf
Seirawan stuff:
http://seagaard.dk/review/eng/bo_beginner/ev_winning_chess.asp?KATID=BO&ID=BO-Beginner
http://www.nystar.com/tamarkin/review1.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627132508/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen173.pdf
https://www.chess.com/article/view/book-review-winning-chess-endings
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708092617/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review560.pdf

AlisonHart

Spongey's advice on looking at games that are already annotated is a great idea. Also, older games are sometimes considered better study material for beginners because they play more intuitively than modern players. If you're trying to start studying GM games by going straight to Magnus Carlsen versus whoever with no notes, you're going to have a lot of trouble understanding what you see. 

 

Here's a random annotated game I found with a quick google....very famous game from a very famous book with very famous notes. Don't try to get EVERYTHING, just try to play through the moves, calculate, think about what you'd play and then see what the master has to say. And - if you blunder - who cares? The analysis board is a safe place for you to learn and play.

 

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1102400

AlisonHart

ALSO, in case you weren't given this piece of advice: Analyze this game with a real board & pieces. Refrain from using the engine unless you legitimately cannot see why X move doesn't work. Computer evaluations are like an answer key; use them to check the work you've done rather than merely filling in answers. 

IMKeto
wesleyn1 wrote:

but i have no clue why they make some of the moves they make so i just feel lost

Study the old masters like Greco, Phiidor, Morphy, up to Alekhine.  You're wasting you time studying todays top players. 

IMKeto

I like to give the famous Opera game to my students.  I break the game down, and ask them to explain "why"  You will get more from these classics, than you will from studying modern games.

 

 

 

 

 

wesleyn1

what are the answers

IMKeto
wesleyn1 wrote:

what are the answers

Thats what you need to figure out. 

Set up the positions on a real board and pieces, and try and figure them out. 

If you cant, then ask :-)

kindaspongey

"... there are major advantages to studying older games rather than those of today. The ideas expressed in a Rubinstein or Capablanca game are generally easier to understand. They are usually carried out to their logical end, often in a memorable way, ... In today's chess, the defense is much better. That may sound good. But it means that the defender's counterplay will muddy the waters and dilute the instructional value of the game. For this reason the games of Rubinstein, Capablanca, Morphy, Siegbert Tarrasch, Harry Pillsbury and Paul Keres are strongly recommended - as well as those of more recent players who have a somewhat classical style, like Fischer, Karpov, Viswanathan Anand and Michael Adams. ..." - GM Andrew Soltis (2010)

wesleyn1

1) allows white to develop his queen and get his bishop in a great position

2)threatening mate

3) not sure why its a bad move..probably because f7 is still being attacked. a better move? qd4.

4) keep pressure and make black react to his threat by either moving his queen or exposing his king by moving it.

5) im not sure why he didnt take b7 but im guessing its because it isnt his strategy to take the pawn and threaten the rook - the rook is inactive. that being said, theres no good reason to take the pressure off of f7. why he developed his knight...im not sure...maybe to take it to b5 and then c7.

kindaspongey

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1233404

autobunny
wesleyn1 wrote:

1) allows white to develop his queen and get his bishop in a great position

2)threatening mate

3) not sure why its a bad move..probably because f7 is still being attacked. a better move? qd4.

4) keep pressure and make black react to his threat by either moving his queen or exposing his king by moving it.

5) im not sure why he didnt take b7 but im guessing its because it isnt his strategy to take the pawn and threaten the rook - the rook is inactive. that being said, theres no good reason to take the pressure off of f7. why he developed his knight...im not sure...maybe to take it to b5 and then c7.

You should take much more than a total of 12 minutes to evaluate these positions if you're a beginner.  Calculate the detailed variations painfully.  It's much more than just general principles at this point.

Also be consistent in your analysis.   You already saw f7 was attacked earlier but later you still suggested qd4 as an improvement to nf6. 

SeniorPatzer

I also think you have to be patient in going over GM games.  It's okay to take a long time.  

autobunny

Perhaps starting with our own games is a better start. 

wesleyn1

thank you

wesleyn1

interesting........

Ashvapathi

I will give u a list of things u should not do:

1) don't study GM games

2) don't study any chess books(except tactics)

3) dont learn opening theory

4) don't learn any advanced endgame technique

5) don't play games longer than 10 min per side.

6) don't play bullet

 

List of things to do:

1) study morphy games

2) practice tactics

3) opening traps like scholars mate

4) play lots of blitz games

IMKeto
Ashvapathi wrote:

I will give u a list of things u should not do:

1) don't study GM games

2) don't study any chess books(except tactics)

3) dont learn opening theory

4) don't learn any advanced endgame technique

5) don't play games longer than 10 min per side.

6) don't play bullet

 

List of things to do:

1) study morphy games

2) practice tactics

3) opening traps like scholars mate

4) play lots of blitz games

So...you want him to do all 10 things?