To me, this is a London System with ...g6. I usually play ...e6/...b6 ideas instead. Black gets an easy game, or at least easily develops in the opening in this opening. I guess you can just develop quite similar to how you would play against the colle or torre attack. If you dont want to become too cramped you could refrain from this KID/fianchetto on Kingside system and play the e6/b6 ideas.
This is all covered in NCO see pages 73-76 and compare.
Ok thanks , I'll have a look . I find it hardest out of all to defend against the 4 pawn attack . Do you have any suggestions ?
Thanks guys :)
Just had a look at chessgames , and the four pawns attack seems like the biggest test for the KID. Here the results :
Number of games in database: 821
Years covered: 1879 to 2008
Overall record:
White wins 44.5%
Black wins 27.6%
Draws 27.9%
Personally I would play it to respond to his e and f pawns. But it also helps against further control of th center.
The g6 is awkward in this opening, but a fianchetto would be nice later on, or castling. I think the e and f pawns are the main priority
I've been messing around with the KID for really just a couple of months in blitz, and I haven't gotten around to doing my theoretical homework, so take this advice with a grain of salt.
First, I do find the KID to be a useful weapon against London-type systems (1. d4 Nf6 2. Bf4 or Nf3). The thing I notice in TalFan's first game is that there are no ...e5 or ...c5 pawn breaks. As black, these are very important if you don't want to have a position that's too cramped. Organizing one at the right time, of course, is the real trick.
Second, my general rule is to try to prevent white's unopposed e4. To do this I depart from the KID and use the Grunfeld (1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 d5), which of course is a different animal. Note that I withhold the ...d5 until the point at which white threatens e4. This is an approach I also use against the London-type systems. For example: 1. d4 Nf6 2. Bf4 g6 3. Nc3 d5.
Just some incoherent Sunday afternoon ramblings...
I've been messing around with the KID for really just a couple of months in blitz, and I haven't gotten around to doing my theoretical homework, so take this advice with a grain of salt.
First, I do find the KID to be a useful weapon against London-type systems (1. d4 Nf6 2. Bf4 or Nf3). The thing I notice in TalFan's first game is that there are no ...e5 or ...c5 pawn breaks. As black, these are very important if you don't want to have a position that's too cramped. Organizing one at the right time, of course, is the real trick.
Second, my general rule is to try to prevent white's unopposed e4. To do this I depart from the KID and use the Grunfeld (1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 d5), which of course is a different animal. Note that I withhold the ...d5 until the point at which white threatens e4. This is an approach I also use against the London-type systems. For example: 1. d4 Nf6 2. Bf4 g6 3. Nc3 d5.
Just some incoherent Sunday afternoon ramblings...
Thanks mate , Grunfeld looks like a little easier to handle , and I might try switching to it instead .
Hi guys . I am mostly looking for advice how to approach the KID when playing it as black . Usually, as a result of playing it incorrectly I get into cramped positions . I have added a gameI played recently to illustrate the point . The end result is not very important , as I only won the game because of a silly blunder by my opponent . As I say I am mostly looking for opening advice but any other comments are appreciated too.