Kill that King! - Chess Forums

little_guinea_pig

Oct 13, 2018

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#1

So I was feeling aggressive today and I played a game (I was white) in which my ONLY goal was: Kill that King!

I know it's horrible for actually improving my chess skills, but it's fun!

Plz analyze and tell me where I could improve my attacks.

NOTE: This is just for fun. My normal play is nothing at all like this!

MichalMalkowski

Oct 13, 2018

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#2

As You have seen it yourself, attacking kingside, when the King is in the centre, is little pointles, at least when it is the King what you want to attack.

Attacking centralised King is funny and easy ( that is why teachers keep, and keep repeating - CASTLE ASAP). When you have castled, and the opponent has not and you have a lead in development, open open the centre. How it is done? By exchanging pawns. Push your CENTRAL pawns and exchange it for the opponent's. Sometimes you can even allow being down one. Then simply aim your pieces at the king - especially the rooks. This will create problematic pins.

little_guinea_pig

Oct 13, 2018

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#3

Enver_Hoxha wrote:

Unfortunately, one of the players who responded to you (MichalMalkowski)
is delusional about his theories. In fact, please do not listen to his nonesense. Even though I have "only" a 1960 USCF (im 13) I believe I can help you.
His move 4...h6?! Was meant to prevent the ghost pin Bg5, and I cannot believe you did not comment on this waste of time. The thing is, most amateurs are terrified of pins (any, in fact!), so let us not dwell on this for much longer.
11...Bc6? Was bad. Simply 11...Neg4 (forcing the exchange of one of your proud attacking bishops) was better. The move played in the game blocks the c-pawn for any center strikes, removes the c6 square from the knight, etc.
14...0-0-0 (given an exclamation mark by you) is, yes, a good move, but the positional player in me tells me that Black is dead lost. With 15. g4! You could have crushed him on the kingside. But, since you are playing for an attack, let us move on.
Your 16.h5 was extremely strong! Yes, this does give up a pawn, but the positional advantage after the pawn sac is so overwhelming that a pawn simply doesn't matter.
Again, 16.g4! is very strong too.
You have the wrong opinion that your Bxa6 sacrifice leads to a lost position for black. Yes, he is skating off a "edge of a cliff," but he can save the game (in fact, stockfish claims White's advantage has completely disappeared), starting with 22...Bb7! 23. Qa7+ Kc8 24. Rd4 c5!!

And then...
You played a brilliant move!!!!!
It turns out Ne5?? Was an awful blunder that walks into this drastic refutation. The game is over from this point on, even if he allowed a mate in 2 later on.

You made some interesting comments all the way through. Even though you desperately wanted to "kill the king" from move one, you had little faith in your own ideas and was praising your opponent's moves a little too much.

Overall, this was a nice attacking game, but you need to be more confident in yourself.

Thank you for letting this guy ramble on and on.

Thank you so much for the help. I did not think that the Bxa3 sacrifice was winning, just that Black needs to defend very well to survive. As for my confidence, I've seen a lot of people get bashed on the forums here because they thought too highly of their own game, and I wanted to make completely sure I didn't go down that rabbit hole! I just played this game for fun, but given the results, I just might actually start playing like that in tournaments!

Thank you very much for responding and giving me insight into this game. BTW, are you actually 13? You seem a bit (a lot) too wise and mature to be 13! (I'm 15 and nowhere close to that!)

little_guinea_pig

Oct 14, 2018

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#4

Wow, Bf1 does seem extremely strong. I am pretty low rated, and this was 10 min blitz, so those sorts of retreat moves are....... not easy to see for me(unless there is an obvious tactic). Thank you for the advice!

MichalMalkowski

Oct 14, 2018

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#5

Ok Enver_Hoxa. I am all ears to learn why what i wrote is a nonsense.

Because what i wrote is the skeleton of attacking an uncastled king. Lead in development, opening up the centre, rooks to the centre. And it is the pins that, can prevent The King from escaping the center- just as in the evergreen game Steinitz - Bardeleben. Perhaps the purest ilustration of what i wrote.

What the Opener did in the game, was a pawn storm in hope the opponent will castle in the stormed direction. He did not.

Hannibal228

Oct 14, 2018

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#6

Pretty good game for your rating.You didn't make many mistakes,except...Rg1 is terrible move if you ask me.Avoid playing moves like that.If you wanted to push g4 you could do that by playing f3 and then g4.F3 is also good because you prevent him from jumping Ng4 and taking your bishop.You don't wanna give that bishop,believe me.Someone said that you shouldn't push your kingside pawns when his king is in the center and maybe he's right but maybe he is not.I don't think it's mistake to push pawns like that and I would play like that too.It's always good if you can play on both sides.Especially because that way he must castle queenside and there he weakened himself by playing a6.If he doesn't castle you can always open the center and crush him,but yeah,I think that you can play anything because he is too passive anyway.Many ways to win and you find a good one.Good game!

little_guinea_pig

Oct 14, 2018

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#7

Hannibal228 wrote:

Pretty good game for your rating.You didn't make many mistakes,except...Rg1 is terrible move if you ask me.Avoid playing moves like that.If you wanted to push g4 you could do that by playing f3 and then g4.F3 is also good because you prevent him from jumping Ng4 and taking your bishop.You don't wanna give that bishop,believe me.Someone said that you shouldn't push your kingside pawns when his king is in the center and maybe he's right but maybe he is not.I don't think it's mistake to push pawns like that and I would play like that too.It's always good if you can play on both sides.Especially because that way he must castle queenside and there he weakened himself by playing a6.If he doesn't castle you can always open the center and crush him,but yeah,I think that you can play anything because he is too passive anyway.Many ways to win and you find a good one.Good game!

I didn't like Rg1, but f3 does not seem too great either. I think I should have played h3 there, then after g4 and hxg4, I have an open file for my rook (which also goes well with my aggressive play this game), so yeah, Rg1 was just a mistake. h3 also stops his knight getting to g4...

little_guinea_pig

Oct 14, 2018

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#8

Just to show you what I normally play like, here is a game I just played. I consider it pretty good and it shows the type of game I play normally.

Compare this one with the 1st game and you will be surprised at the difference!

Oh, yeah, and on move 29, read "kind" as "king" (darn keyboard)

Hannibal228

Oct 14, 2018

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#9

Enver_Hoxha wrote:

So it seems, Mr. (or Mrs.) Hannibal228, your "fine idea" of preparing G4 is slightly flawed.
The winner of this game explicitly said he wanted to attack, and 10.Rhg1 seems like a good way to get the "killer instinct" pumping.
Besides, littleLizz stated this is not how he normally plays. I have no doubt that he would have played differently id not stuck in that mindset. You can't criticize a move like that, influenced by psychological matters. Besides, it isn't even that bad. Most amateurs have a extremely hard time facing down attacks.
Also, using pawn breaks to get to the central king is very, very good idea normally. Its just that these central pawn breaks simply don't work based off my analysis.

My idea is not flawed.But yeah,maybe it's better to take first on c6 and then play f3 because that way black doesn't have c5 with tempo.If you are anlyzing with stockfish know that it's much harder to defend this position as black when you're human.You say white has minimal advantage but I would take this position as white anytime.Forget about engine,I am talking about positional uderstanding.You can't compare moves like f3 and Rg1,common.And to littleLiz,h3 is also better than Rg1.You can play Rg1 later if it's needed.If black castles kingside,your main plan is to play g4,h4 and g5.It's the way it should be played.

little_guinea_pig

Oct 14, 2018

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#10

Hannibal228 wrote:

Enver_Hoxha wrote:

So it seems, Mr. (or Mrs.) Hannibal228, your "fine idea" of preparing G4 is slightly flawed.
The winner of this game explicitly said he wanted to attack, and 10.Rhg1 seems like a good way to get the "killer instinct" pumping.
Besides, littleLizz stated this is not how he normally plays. I have no doubt that he would have played differently id not stuck in that mindset. You can't criticize a move like that, influenced by psychological matters. Besides, it isn't even that bad. Most amateurs have a extremely hard time facing down attacks.
Also, using pawn breaks to get to the central king is very, very good idea normally. Its just that these central pawn breaks simply don't work based off my analysis.

My idea is not flawed.But yeah,maybe it's better to take first on c6 and then play f3 because that way black doesn't have c5 with tempo.If you are anlyzing with stockfish know that it's much harder to defend this position as black when you're human.You say white has minimal advantage but I would take this position as white anytime.Forget about engine,I am talking about positional uderstanding.You can't compare moves like f3 and Rg1,common.And to littleLiz,h3 is also better than Rg1.You can play Rg1 later if it's needed.If black castles kingside,your main plan is to play g4,h4 and g5.It's the way it should be played.

Thank you for the help!

little_guinea_pig

Oct 14, 2018

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#11

Enver_Hoxha wrote:

Also, very nice positional game. You seem to be much, much stronger than your rating.
Now go bash some other people, littleLizz!

Well, ehm.... I actually am much stronger than my rating. I have another account on here rated 1400, but I can't activate it because I forgot the password to my email that I used to make it, and so I can't chat or post on the forums or anything! The only thing I can do there is play chess.

I only really use this account for posting forums..... The people I play against are also around 1400, and those are the games I post. Still, I played on this account up until a couple months ago, and the 1000 you see was a fair rating at that time, so I'm improving!

Chessguy8725

Oct 14, 2018

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#12

littleLizz wrote:

Just to show you what I normally play like, here is a game I just played. I consider it pretty good and it shows the type of game I play normally.

Compare this one with the 1st game and you will be surprised at the difference!

Oh, yeah, and on move 29, read "kind" as "king" (darn keyboard)

What opening is that?

little_guinea_pig

Oct 14, 2018

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#13

Chessguy8725 wrote:

littleLizz wrote:

Just to show you what I normally play like, here is a game I just played. I consider it pretty good and it shows the type of game I play normally.

Compare this one with the 1st game and you will be surprised at the difference!

Oh, yeah, and on move 29, read "kind" as "king" (darn keyboard)

What opening is that?

Well, it was a Philidor Defense, Exchange Variation but then he played 4..... c5?! A pointless move that is not part of any theory whatsoever So just call it a Philidor Defense and you'll be fine......

little_guinea_pig

Oct 14, 2018

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#14

Enver_Hoxha wrote:

Even if you have a 1400 rating, your play is still extremely strong.

Ummm… that's probably b/c for every game that I show here, there are some games that...….. let's just say that they should never see the light of day. I am about to play a game, no matter what happens I will post it here. Could be in for a rough time.....

little_guinea_pig

Oct 14, 2018

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#15

As promised, here is the game I just played. I made some opening errors, missed an opportunity to get an advantage, got a small advantage.... and then, he resigned for (in my eyes) no reason at all!

Chessguy8725

Oct 16, 2018

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#16

littleLizz wrote:

Chessguy8725 wrote:

littleLizz wrote:

Just to show you what I normally play like, here is a game I just played. I consider it pretty good and it shows the type of game I play normally.

Compare this one with the 1st game and you will be surprised at the difference!

Oh, yeah, and on move 29, read "kind" as "king" (darn keyboard)

What opening is that?

Well, it was a Philidor Defense, Exchange Variation but then he played 4..... c5?! A pointless move that is not part of any theory whatsoever So just call it a Philidor Defense and you'll be fine......

Now I know. Thanks, littleLizz