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whathow

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You stalemated instead of winning

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mrhouck wrote:

how

 

Cornering a king like that, without giving a check at the same time, does not count as a win for Black even though the White king has no safe square to move to.

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DigitalWarfare wrote:

Jesus...OP's a real intellectual giant, huh? 

dude, i'm not that good at chess and i'm still pretty new, there's no reason to be a smartass

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mrhouck 写道:
DigitalWarfare wrote:

Jesus...OP's a real intellectual giant, huh? 

dude, i'm not that good at chess and i'm still pretty new, there's no reason to be a smartass

That isn't about chess 

That is about how in the world did you not know what does missed win mean(which is written so easily understood as "missed win") when you litherally turned a win into a tie

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tacticspotter wrote:
mrhouck 写道:
DigitalWarfare wrote:

Jesus...OP's a real intellectual giant, huh? 

dude, i'm not that good at chess and i'm still pretty new, there's no reason to be a smartass

That isn't about chess 

That is about how in the world did you not know what does missed win mean(which is written so easily understood as "missed win") when you litherally turned a win into a tie

not being good at chess, i didn't realize that you tied after 50 moves

i know what a missed win, and in the post i put 'how,' because i was confused on how it was a missed win

i also said how because isn't that a checkmate anyways?

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mrhouck wrote:
tacticspotter wrote:
mrhouck 写道:
DigitalWarfare wrote:

Jesus...OP's a real intellectual giant, huh? 

dude, i'm not that good at chess and i'm still pretty new, there's no reason to be a smartass

That isn't about chess 

That is about how in the world did you not know what does missed win mean(which is written so easily understood as "missed win") when you litherally turned a win into a tie

not being good at chess, i didn't realize that you tied after 50 moves

i know what a missed win, and in the post i put 'how,' because i was confused on how it was a missed win

i also said how because isn't that a checkmate anyways?

Bruh no offense but even a 600 rated player should know that a stalemate isn't a win.

Also that wasn't the 50-move rule, get your vocabulary straight

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Sumebody wrote:

It would be in a different variant...but hence the stalemate name it would not be. Since you didn't deliver checkmate (delivering check while giving the enemy king no safe squares to move to) and instead delivered stalemate, you drawed the game in a winning position. For help, go here.

https://www.chess.com/article/view/how-chess-games-can-end-8-ways-explained#stalemate

This would take him directly to the "stalemate" page. Still nicely explained @Sumebody happy.png

Also another article all on stalemate:

https://www.chess.com/terms/stalemate-chess 

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Sammy_Thechessboy wrote:
Sumebody wrote:

It would be in a different variant...but hence the stalemate name it would not be. Since you didn't deliver checkmate (delivering check while giving the enemy king no safe squares to move to) and instead delivered stalemate, you drawed the game in a winning position. For help, go here.

https://www.chess.com/article/view/how-chess-games-can-end-8-ways-explained#stalemate

This would take him directly to the "stalemate" page. Still nicely explained @Sumebody

Also another article all on stalemate:

https://www.chess.com/terms/stalemate-chess 

man i've said like 4 times that i suck at chess i'm just trying to learn what happened here and i'm getting dumped on

thanks for the links though i'll check them out

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This is so awesome!  No one is actually looking at the question!

We don't capture the king in chess, but when you try to understand the difference between stalemate and checkmate, it helps to go that extra step and imagine if we capture the king. 

A checkmate is when the king cannot escape capture. Anywhere they move or capture, or if they skip their turn, they will be captured the next turn. 

A stalemate is when there is no moves other pieces your opponent can move, and if they move the king, it will be captured. BUT if the skip their turn, their king will not be captured.  This means they're out of legal moves, and since they have no legal moves, it is considered a tie. 

The reason that this is a missed win, is that you can easily mate a king with a rook and a queen, but instead of doing that, you left your opponent without a legal move, so it was a tie. 

 

Now this is the best part. The computer that checks your game is not good. It doesn't check very far. The computer suggested a line that ends with a stalemate, but when you clicked on it, the computer analyzed the line and realized it was a missed win.  That's why the computer suggested a missed win. 

 

 

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You made a move that did not check the king, and it did not allow the king to make a legal move...so it is a stalemate. The line for the "best move" shows how you could have easily won with a checkmate.

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icyboyyy wrote:
mrhouck wrote:
DigitalWarfare wrote:

Jesus...OP's a real intellectual giant, huh? 

dude, i'm not that good at chess and i'm still pretty new, there's no reason to be a smartass

but you joined this site in 2017 bruh

i made an account in 2017 and played like 4 games,, i've only really started playing recently

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binomine wrote:

This is so awesome!  No one is actually looking at the question!

We don't capture the king in chess, but when you try to understand the difference between stalemate and checkmate, it helps to go that extra step and imagine if we capture the king. 

A checkmate is when the king cannot escape capture. Anywhere they move or capture, or if they skip their turn, they will be captured the next turn. 

A stalemate is when there is no moves other pieces your opponent can move, and if they move the king, it will be captured. BUT if the skip their turn, their king will not be captured.  This means they're out of legal moves, and since they have no legal moves, it is considered a tie. 

The reason that this is a missed win, is that you can easily mate a king with a rook and a queen, but instead of doing that, you left your opponent without a legal move, so it was a tie. 

 

Now this is the best part. The computer that checks your game is not good. It doesn't check very far. The computer suggested a line that ends with a stalemate, but when you clicked on it, the computer analyzed the line and realized it was a missed win.  That's why the computer suggested a missed win. 

 

 

OHH this makes so much sense thank you so much