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Can someone tell me a bit of how to read this?

How is the +,- decided

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It indicates who is winning, for example here white is winning because the greater sodium of the bar is there's

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Dan-likes-clocks-2 wrote:

It indicates who is winning, for example here white is winning because the greater sodium of the bar is there's

How is the number decided?

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So it starts with 5-5 and the winning side gets more than the losing side. If its M(whatever) (it means Mate in __)then your or your opponent’s side color will fill the whole evaluation bar (the one you circled) if you win, or your opponent wins, it will be the same as mate in __ but it will say 1-0. Ok my hands are dying hope you appreciate my explanation!
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And your welcome! 🤗
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thanks for the info

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mypawnisapassedpawn wrote:
So it starts with 5-5 and the winning side gets more than the losing side. If its M(whatever) (it means Mate in __)then your or your opponent’s side color will fill the whole evaluation bar (the one you circled) if you win, or your opponent wins, it will be the same as mate in __ but it will say 1-0. Ok my hands are dying hope you appreciate my explanation!

I do, sorry to make you type all of that

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See it like this. If it’s +5 then white is winning by 5 pawns worth of material so it can be that if you give black 5 pawns it would be equal(of course I know it depends on the position, but it’s just an example. -3 means black is winning by 3 pawns worth of material so that means if you give white 3 pawns then it’s equal(I know it depends on the position, but just an example). If it’s +- or -+ then it’s equal
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Josh11live wrote:
See it like this. If it’s +5 then white is winning by 5 pawns worth of material so it can be that if you give black 5 pawns it would be equal(of course I know it depends on the position, but it’s just an example. -3 means black is winning by 3 pawns worth of material so that means if you give white 3 pawns then it’s equal(I know it depends on the position, but just an example). If it’s +- or -+ then it’s equal

I was talking about the analysis 8.3 etc. ty though

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It just a general example so it works in your sotuation. You’e welcome
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The bigger the number is, the more clear it is that one player has the advantage.

± <1.00 = No advantage

± 1.50 = Barely noticeable advantage

± 2.50 = Noticeable advantage

± 3.50 = White/Black is clearly much better

± >5.00 = White/Black is completely winning

± Mx = White/Black has a forced checkmate in x moves


Each 0.01 in the evaluation is a "centipawn advantage," or one hundredth of a pawn, as Lichess puts it. So, if the advantage is ±2, that means one player has an advantage equivalent to being up two pawns. Lichess also measures "centipawn loss" for how much the advantage changes when a player makes a move that is not the best, according to the engine, and at the end of the game converts it into an "average centipawn loss." In general, an ACL of less than 50 is considered respectable, less than 35 is very good, and less than 20 indicates grandmaster-level play.

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Fr3nchToastCrunch wrote:

The bigger the number is, the more clear it is that one player has the advantage.

± <1.00 = No advantage

± 1.50 = Barely noticeable advantage

± 2.50 = Noticeable advantage

± 3.50 = White/Black is clearly much better

± >5.00 = White/Black is completely winning

± Mx = White/Black has a forced checkmate in x moves


Each 0.01 in the evaluation is a "centipawn advantage," or one hundredth of a pawn, as Lichess puts it. So, if the advantage is ±2, that means one player has an advantage equivalent to being up two pawns. Lichess also measures "centipawn loss" for how much the advantage changes when a player makes a move that is not the best, according to the engine, and at the end of the game converts it into an "average centipawn loss." In general, an ACL of less than 50 is considered respectable, less than 35 is very good, and less than 20 indicates grandmaster-level play.

Thank you! That was very clear and easy for me to understand.

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It's not embarrassing. It's a good question @Mochi-Muffin

Just like @Josh11live mentioned, it is the computer evaluation of the position. Computers can't "think" the same way humans do, so computers calculate super far and then give each position an objective evaluation of how much it thinks each side is winning by; their units of measure are "centipawns" (literally 100th of a pawn!). If the computer claims the position is 0.01, then that means it believes white is winning by one hundreth of a pawn. Positive numbers mean white is winning and negative numbers mean black is winning. If a position is 1.00, then it means white is winning by one pawn and if a position is -1.00, then it means black is winning by one pawn.

Keep in mind, this is the computer's evaluation, so it's more than just counting material. If material is equal and the computer says the position is -3.00 (for example), then that means black is winning by other positional factors (or at least not material yet) which equals about three points of material.

@Fr3nchToastCrunch gave a good estimate of "how good" an advantage is, but it is important to recognize that the higher level the player is, then the more they can convert with a smaller advantage. They said that "± 1.50" is a "Barely noticeable advantage" but I consider this a fairly decent advantage at my level and at the level of titled players, that's a clear advantage to that side. Conversely, chess beginners who just learned how the pieces move... they may need at least a 3 point advantage before they feel they are slightly winning.

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That number just shows how much white is winning by, according to the computer.
0.5 means that the position is basically drawn, but something about the position gives white a slight advantage.
8 means that white has a big advantage, whether material, positional, or a tactic could achieve one of those things.
Negative numbers mean the same as positive ones, but for black.
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Don’t be embarrassed by the way. These questions are never dumb! It means you’re curious, striving for more! Keep it up!