Perfect attack!?

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02Wesley (1581) - 1666

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pretty cool, very aggressive play style btw 

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5...Bxd4

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after e5 ng8 how about c3? if black captures then u have spaces and it helps ur development

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According to the computer analyses, I made no inaccuraties, mistakes or blunders in the intire game!

Never happened to me before. It's a bit tricky though, since indeed Bc4+ was mate in 3.. I missed that!! Thanks for the input.. Further, I was winning at that point anyway, indeed, missing the best option to seal the win.

Sure, opponent was perhaps cooperative. Of course this attack was not fully perfect, neither was the game. And Indeed the opponent of 1666 isn't a great player. But with respect to him, I also only am 1580 rated.. So for me such an attack is a great step forward! The point is that my attack was not based on 'I hope he does that so I can do that'- kind of thinking, but that it was a well thought out attack, and please show me examples of players, my rating, that did the same!

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Very nice and correct looking attack by white. Comments like the one made by echecs06 are imo quite unnecessary. Your opponent was higher rated than you and you won him very convincingly. After all, you can only beat what's in front of youSmile.

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Here is another game. Also in this one, I played very aggressive, but sealed the victory without too many risks I believe. Comments or lines are welcome!

02Wesley (1597) - 1602

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tonydal wrote:
02Wesley wrote:

According to the computer analyses, I made no inaccuraties, mistakes or blunders in the intire game!

Maybe...but your opponent should certainly have played 6... d5 (which is the standard response in such situations).


I never said my opponent did not make any wrong moves. I played optimal, so far as my opponent allowed me to..

The computer analyses isn't fully correct, since as I mentioned, It did mention mate in 3, but my move should had been an inaccuraty, since I missed it..

Still, I believe, 6.Ng4 is also a good move against this opening.. isn't it?

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This seems favorable for white.. Or did I miss a good move for black?

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tonydal wrote:

This is the Max Lange...an exceedingly old (and venerable) opening, as you can judge by Max's lifedates (1832-1899). This has all been analyzed extensively (and that, believe me, is an understatement!) long ago.


Okay then. Do you have any idea where I can find these analyses? It seems very learnfull, since I play this opening sometimes..

Thanks for your input! 

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RealityMate wrote:
02Wesley wrote:

This seems favorable for white.. Or did I miss a good move for black?


black has the two bishops and will be able to develop with relative ease.  white has the e-file, but black has more than enough counterplay.  Although white appears to be more comfortable, black has dangerous looking hanging pawns on d4 and c4 and (in my opinion) a strong game.  


 So Black seems stronger.. As I haven't looked at the analyses yet, Do you think black is so much stronger that this opening shouldn't be played by white or do you think this opening is nevertheless very playable.

And second: where there any mistakes, or inaccuraties by white or black so far? What should be the main ideas??

Thank you as well for your input!

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paulgottlieb wrote:

In this wonderful world we live in, why not just google "max lange attack" and see what you come up with


 It's worth the shot!

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Hey Wesley,

You missed an important move- 8.Re1+  Be6  9.Ng5 Qd5! 10.Nc3!! attacking the queen. If the pawn takes, your queen can take your opponent's queen for free because the queen's only defender is pinned to the king! A neat trick.

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TheDestructivePawn wrote:

Hey Wesley,

 You missed an important move in the Max Lange attack- 8.Re1+  Be6  9.Ng5 Qd5! 10.Nc3!! attacking the queen. If the pawn takes, your queen can take your opponent's queen for free because the queen's only defender is pinned to the king! A neat trick.


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TheDestructivePawn wrote:

Hey Wesley,

You missed an important move- 8.Re1+  Be6  9.Ng5 Qd5! 10.Nc3!! attacking the queen. If the pawn takes, your queen can take your opponent's queen for free because the queen's only defender is pinned to the king! A neat trick.


 Thank you for your reaction! But: Could you be more specific? I'm not sure which game you are talking about (first posted or second posted),cause if I'm not mistaking, in both games, 8.re1 is not check!..

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How about the moves below in the Max Lange?  How is White getting an advantage there?
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The Max Lange Attack: talk about theory intensive Surprised

Still, 02Wesley, I like the way you play chess.  Cool

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Lange_Attack

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This is one of the reasons I rarely play e5 to e4.

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Niven42 wrote:

This is one of the reasons I rarely play e5 to e4.


 you can play e5.. but just not versus me Tongue out

I never play e5 against e4.. I don't really see the point to repeat white, while an option as the sicilian is available.. But, of course, lot's of people disagree, and I can hardly wait for the first tables showing me that it is the number two played response against e4, and-so-on ..

But It was a nice game, though notperfect. The lesson here is, dare to play, surely on the lower rated levels (of course GM's and other great chess players can't afford opportunism.)