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rooperi

Just for my own curiosity, please give me your estimate of the approximate ratings of the players in this game.Once I have a few estimates, I'll explain why I want to know.

Feel free to point out mistakes, too.

pskogli

chess.com rating or real rating? I would guess 2600-2700 on both if it was a real life game.

Actually I think I have seen this game before.

killthequeen

It looks like high ratings judging on the first few moves. Quite a positional and complicated opening is played.

princejher

master games rated around 2500

rooperi

Thank you for your comments. Very interesting.

Actually, a vote chess game between Team South Africa (white) and Team Canada (black)

Not sure about about Canada, But SA average rating was about 1670. There were 2 players who actively participated who were around 2100, the rest much lower.

I guess what I'm getting at, is this:

How much of an improvement is there if you can consult? Is the sum greater than the parts?

How much value is there in vote chess for lower rated players? I certainly feel I learnt a lot, even though we lost.

killthequeen

That's very interesting. My belief is that a team is as strong as its strongest player, and on how much analysis that strong player does. So often in so many vote chess games a strong player, maybe 2300-ish presents his/her analysis and reccomends moves.

In a group of 33 if there are 10 rated 800-1400, 10 rated 1401-1800, 10 rated 1801-2100 and 3 with ratings of 2101+ you would find that the higher players will tend to take control of the game. BUT a game lead by an enthusiastic and hard-working 2000-er is better than one led by a dissinterested 2200-er. That I know for sure.

As for vote chess, discussion is useful as long as the moves come alive and is not just bear notation in the post.

I enjoy it.

HappyBuddaH

As a matter of fact the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Its scientifically proven. There is a podcast available about the subject from Radiolab (http://www.wnyc.org/shows/radiolab/episodes/2005/02/18) on the topic, called Emergence.

It's way interesting.

I'm not sure vote chess falls exactly into this category unless its done the way it was meant to be done - with discussion.

Either way RadioLab is awesome. Check it out.