Positional atrocity..But, I give the opponent fighting chances

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erikido23

Obviously the qxg6 and qxe3 lines aren't forced(or even necessarily accurate for either side.  But, I just wanted to demonstrate some of the ideas I had in mind).  Let me know what you think.  Was the ne3 idea even good(I just simply missed after the knight moved that it could be taken by bishop).  What do you think about qxg6 or qxe3 for white?  My bishop is always FAR superior so I should be better in all lines.  But, how to be accurate?  

 

PS.  I know it says right click to add notes.  But I am on a mac (without a mouse) so there is no right click.  What is the equivalent?

erikido23

And of course now that I look at it I blundered miserably in the sideline.  But, Qxb2 instead of hanging the queen is prettygood

 

Cherub_Enjel

I just glanced, but it seems like a solid game by black to me. White's position was really horrible. You may have given white some chances, but white didn't take them at all - I would have played f4, because you need your bishop in opposite colored bishop positions. White just sat there and did absolutely nothing while the position collapsed.

The perfect example of what happens when you play against the Botvinnik Structure poorly. 

erikido23

Yes, I was expecting f4 at some point.  But, there never seems to be any good time.  12 f4 and I just exchange, open up my bishop and have a much better game.  If the rook captures then the bishop has a great outpost after be5 rf3 followed by ne5 and black just has to be strategically winning.  If g takes then no calculation necessary.  Just a bunch of weak pawns and a weaker king for white.  Black has to be strategically winning

To me it seems that nd5 is almost strategically lost.  As you say the f4 plan seems to be the only real active one.  But, it can't really be made unless you play c4(instead of immediate nd2). Then black gets a great game with b5!? and if cxb then not immediate nxd5. but just B-b7 

ChePlaSsYer

24.Qxe3 

erikido23
ChePlaSsYer wrote:

24.Qxe3 

Yes, that is one of the variations which I showed ;D

ChePlaSsYer

No you did not. Look at 29.e5

I also appreciate your sharpness but 25...e4 is not good. Why not d4 instead?

erikido23

So you go from one move (24 qxe3) to pointing outage engine no.1 move 5 moves later.  If you are going to bring something to the discussion don't just say one move

 

ChePlaSsYer

I am correcting a variation. It does not take a brain to see your line is flawed, any being with some sort of intuition can feel something is wrong with it.

ChePlaSsYer

Why am I getting attacked in all threads where I give criticism? Not my fault to be yisus crist.

erikido23

because you aren't giving criticism and you are telling people they didn't do things which they IN FACT did.  You are saying "look at my line".  Your line was playing one move.  That isn't criticism that is stupidity.  One move in chess is never an answer. 

 

 

btw 29e5 isn't even better for white

 

erikido23

If you want to be treated like an adult don't just come in tell someone they didn't show you a line(when they showed an 8 move line) and you just said the beginning of the line.  I can sugar coat it.  But, when you say you showed a line which was just the 1st move of a variation I show it is careless and stupid.  

ChePlaSsYer

The "kido" is triggered.

You showed a crap line that was flawed which is worthless. I criticized your line and offered improvement.

If you do not want to get criticism then talk about your damn game with mommy.

erikido23

Lol....naming the first move in a line is no improvement.  You are being blocked.  Go troll on somewhere else

HorsesGalore

how about a different route for your Rook on move 28, ie; ...R-c8  to try for activity on the 2nd rank.......in some lines, your "d" pawn advances with threats on   b2.  

one line can go 28....R(f)c8   29 Qf7,  Rc7   30 Qe6,  Rc2  with pressure on White's Q side pawns and K-side

erikido23

Hmm...I think you mean on a different move than 28.  But, I do like your idea

 

HorsesGalore

in the actual game, White played 28 h4   and then instead of the game continuation of R-f4, I am looking at 28...... R(f)-c8

erikido23
HorsesGalore wrote:

in the actual game, White played 28 h4   and then instead of the game continuation of R-f4, I am looking at 28...... R(f)-c8

ah yes...I looked at that but didn't like qd3 immediately threatening h5.  I think my king would be 2 weak there

 

blueemu

Nice to see someone else playing a Botvinnik formation out of a closed Sicilian.

Here's mine... a very similar opening layout. compare around move 8 :