Have you ever used pre-move, jgl1976? The difference is negligible.
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Apr 17, 2011
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#23
adude23 wrote:
Have you ever used pre-move, jgl1976? The difference is negligible.
Yes and No...Your conclusion is wrong, when you are playing a 1 min match nothing is "negligible"...
jgl i challenge you at Live chess bullet match with no premonve.
do you accept?
Apr 17, 2011
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#25
jgl1976 wrote:
adude23 wrote:
Have you ever used pre-move, jgl1976? The difference is negligible.
Yes and No...Your conclusion is wrong, when you are playing a 1 min match nothing is "negligible"...
You do realize that removing premove would make the game completely luck-based, right? Let's I blunder a Queen on move 10. You're now up a full Queen. You have 45 seconds left to my 46. Assuming I have better reflexes/mouse/connection than you do, I'm not sure you could ever actually checkmate me without premoves. You'd run out of time every time, since each move would take at least a second or so off of your clock.
Apr 17, 2011
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#26
SensFan33 wrote:
jgl1976 wrote:
adude23 wrote:
Have you ever used pre-move, jgl1976? The difference is negligible.
Yes and No...Your conclusion is wrong, when you are playing a 1 min match nothing is "negligible"...
You do realize that removing premove would make the game completely luck-based, right? Let's I blunder a Queen on move 10. You're now up a full Queen. You have 45 seconds left to my 46. Assuming I have better reflexes/mouse/connection than you do, I'm not sure you could ever actually checkmate me without premoves. You'd run out of time every time, since each move would take at least a second or so off of your clock.
None of the above is correct...
Apr 17, 2011
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#28
RainbowRising wrote:
No premove 2500+ rating.
Case closed
Case not closed... Are you saying that you can not tell when premove is turn on or off? Or the premove has no effect?
Apr 17, 2011
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#29
jgl1976 wrote:
Case not closed... Are you saying that you can not tell when premove is turn on or off? Or the premove has no effect?
Read what people are saying. With premove off, being up a full Queen does not matter if you are down on time with, say, 20 seconds left. It's easy for your opponent to defend for 15 moves without being checkmated, and then you lose on time.
Apr 17, 2011
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#30
SensFan33 wrote:
jgl1976 wrote:
Case not closed... Are you saying that you can not tell when premove is turn on or off? Or the premove has no effect?
Read what people are saying. With premove off, being up a full Queen does not matter if you are down on time with, say, 20 seconds left. It's easy for your opponent to defend for 15 moves without being checkmated, and then you lose on time.
Pal your not making sense to me I'm very dumb as you can tell from my rating...But some how you saying you can't play bullet without premove but yet a few do, hence the dude a few comments up from this....
Apr 17, 2011
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#31
jgl1976 wrote:
SensFan33 wrote:
jgl1976 wrote:
Case not closed... Are you saying that you can not tell when premove is turn on or off? Or the premove has no effect?
Read what people are saying. With premove off, being up a full Queen does not matter if you are down on time with, say, 20 seconds left. It's easy for your opponent to defend for 15 moves without being checkmated, and then you lose on time.
Pal your not making sense to me I'm very dumb as you can tell from my rating...But some how you saying you can't play bullet without premove but yet a few do, hence the dude a few comments up from this....
You and I are playing bullet, and we've played 25 moves. You have 20 seconds left, and I have 25 seconds left. I'm also down a full Queen with absolutely no compensation. Ok?
I'm saying that it woudn't be overly difficult for me to make you play 25 moves before you actually checkmate me. But without premoves, you don't have enough time left on your clock to make 25 moves without losing on time. See the problem?
Apr 17, 2011
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#33
RainbowRising wrote:
Im saying I dont use premove, and im 2500+.
Right, to be honest this thread I should have never started but due to this other thread i fired off this nonsense....But if we want to stay on this horse you are just one and how the hell could we get a baseline from just one?
Apr 17, 2011
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#34
SensFan33 wrote:
jgl1976 wrote:
SensFan33 wrote:
jgl1976 wrote:
Case not closed... Are you saying that you can not tell when premove is turn on or off? Or the premove has no effect?
Read what people are saying. With premove off, being up a full Queen does not matter if you are down on time with, say, 20 seconds left. It's easy for your opponent to defend for 15 moves without being checkmated, and then you lose on time.
Pal your not making sense to me I'm very dumb as you can tell from my rating...But some how you saying you can't play bullet without premove but yet a few do, hence the dude a few comments up from this....
You and I are playing bullet, and we've played 25 moves. You have 20 seconds left, and I have 25 seconds left. I'm also down a full Queen with absolutely no compensation. Ok?
I'm saying that it woudn't be overly difficult for me to make you play 25 moves before you actually checkmate me. But without premoves, you don't have enough time left on your clock to make 25 moves without losing on time. See the problem?
Your Math is False... .01 Pal....
Apr 17, 2011
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Apr 17, 2011
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#36
jgl1976 wrote:
SensFan33 wrote:
jgl1976 wrote:
SensFan33 wrote:
jgl1976 wrote:
Case not closed... Are you saying that you can not tell when premove is turn on or off? Or the premove has no effect?
Read what people are saying. With premove off, being up a full Queen does not matter if you are down on time with, say, 20 seconds left. It's easy for your opponent to defend for 15 moves without being checkmated, and then you lose on time.
Pal your not making sense to me I'm very dumb as you can tell from my rating...But some how you saying you can't play bullet without premove but yet a few do, hence the dude a few comments up from this....
You and I are playing bullet, and we've played 25 moves. You have 20 seconds left, and I have 25 seconds left. I'm also down a full Queen with absolutely no compensation. Ok?
I'm saying that it woudn't be overly difficult for me to make you play 25 moves before you actually checkmate me. But without premoves, you don't have enough time left on your clock to make 25 moves without losing on time. See the problem?
Your Math is False... .01 Pal....
You're telling me you can make a move in 0.1 seconds without premove? If so, you're a liar. If not, you just proved my point completely.
Apr 17, 2011
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#37
SensFan33 wrote:
jgl1976 wrote:
SensFan33 wrote:
jgl1976 wrote:
SensFan33 wrote:
jgl1976 wrote:
Case not closed... Are you saying that you can not tell when premove is turn on or off? Or the premove has no effect?
Read what people are saying. With premove off, being up a full Queen does not matter if you are down on time with, say, 20 seconds left. It's easy for your opponent to defend for 15 moves without being checkmated, and then you lose on time.
Pal your not making sense to me I'm very dumb as you can tell from my rating...But some how you saying you can't play bullet without premove but yet a few do, hence the dude a few comments up from this....
You and I are playing bullet, and we've played 25 moves. You have 20 seconds left, and I have 25 seconds left. I'm also down a full Queen with absolutely no compensation. Ok?
I'm saying that it woudn't be overly difficult for me to make you play 25 moves before you actually checkmate me. But without premoves, you don't have enough time left on your clock to make 25 moves without losing on time. See the problem?
Your Math is False... .01 Pal....
You're telling me you can make a move in 0.1 seconds without premove? If so, you're a liar. If not, you just proved my point completely.
Thank you for your feedback... Now if you dont mind...
Apr 17, 2011
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#38
Lol.
"Take the premove challenge! I guarantee you your rating will drop!"
"Umm, that's because bullet is almost impossible to play to checkmate without premoves..."
"What's that? I think you should leave this thread, son!"
Apr 17, 2011
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#39
RainbowRising wrote:
'baseline' is defined anywhere in that article, and I fail to see how a taste test has anything to do with premove
I was going to poll a few players other than just one and If you already dont use premove you can not help.... But thanks for your support...
Your the only one hating on premove i can beat without, almost everyone can beat you without it.
Oh my fan, you need to read on more... I am not the first nor the last of a long line who hate on the premove...Anything else I can help you with?