Premove Pepsi Challenge!!

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jgl1976
AnthonyCG wrote:

So when is the Red Bull challenge?


Please start one ASAP!!!

ImaBullet

even if it takes you 1move per second i guarantee it is very likely to be checkmated in 60 moves, or in jgls case since he is a beginner i believe someone like RainbowRising can checkmated him in about 25 moves, or at least after 15 moves he will be in a winning position.

MathBandit
ImaBullet wrote:

even if it takes you 1move per second i guarantee it is very likely to be checkmated in 60 moves, or in jgls case since he is a beginner i believe someone like RainbowRising can checkmated him in about 25 moves, or at least after 15 moves he will be in a winning position.


A winning position means nothing if you have no time on the clock. I stand by my statement that without premoves, being up a full Queen with 20 seconds left means absolutely nothing if there's no immediate tactical checkmate.

jgl1976
SensFan33 wrote:
ImaBullet wrote:

even if it takes you 1move per second i guarantee it is very likely to be checkmated in 60 moves, or in jgls case since he is a beginner i believe someone like RainbowRising can checkmated him in about 25 moves, or at least after 15 moves he will be in a winning position.


A winning position means nothing if you have no time on the clock. I stand by my statement that without premoves, being up a full Queen with 20 seconds left means absolutely nothing if there's no immediate tactical checkmate.


If you are right, you prove my point....

MathBandit
jgl1976 wrote:
SensFan33 wrote:
ImaBullet wrote:

even if it takes you 1move per second i guarantee it is very likely to be checkmated in 60 moves, or in jgls case since he is a beginner i believe someone like RainbowRising can checkmated him in about 25 moves, or at least after 15 moves he will be in a winning position.


A winning position means nothing if you have no time on the clock. I stand by my statement that without premoves, being up a full Queen with 20 seconds left means absolutely nothing if there's no immediate tactical checkmate.


If you are right, you prove my point....


You're arguing that bullet chess is has nothing to do with chess skill if premoves are removed? Because you've kinda been implying the opposite.

jgl1976
SensFan33 wrote:
jgl1976 wrote:
SensFan33 wrote:
ImaBullet wrote:

even if it takes you 1move per second i guarantee it is very likely to be checkmated in 60 moves, or in jgls case since he is a beginner i believe someone like RainbowRising can checkmated him in about 25 moves, or at least after 15 moves he will be in a winning position.


A winning position means nothing if you have no time on the clock. I stand by my statement that without premoves, being up a full Queen with 20 seconds left means absolutely nothing if there's no immediate tactical checkmate.


If you are right, you prove my point....


You're arguing that bullet chess is has nothing to do with chess skill if premoves are on? Because you've kinda been implying the opposite.


You're arguing that bullet chess is has nothing to do with chess skill if premoves are on - Yes

"Plus it allows the human to act out or not consistent of his/her given behavior."

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/suggestions/premove-and-speed-chess-bullet

MathBandit

In that case you're making no sense at all.

You're arguing that bullet without premoves has nothing to do with chess skill.
You're arguing that people should try bullet without premoves. 

jgl1976
SensFan33 wrote:

In that case you're making no sense at all.

You're arguing that bullet without premoves has nothing to do with chess skill.
You're arguing that people should try bullet without premoves. 


ImaBullet

jgl1976 u have to stop spamming your on forums just to raise its popularity.

jgl1976
ImaBullet wrote:

jgl1976 u have to stop spamming your on forums just to raise its popularity.


lol?

876543Z1

pre moves are for girls

>:)

ilikeflags

phoenix214

Lol, i didnt know chess.com had premove, and sometimes i was wondering how i lost games where i had 9 sec to about 2 or 1 sec, well but my bullet raiting is about 2150-2250 , i think so :D, dont remember probobly about 2200

dc1985

Hmm... Try playing longer games if you don't want to play people who premove to run your clock down. I dislike premove, but I can see how one might want the feature. (In a legitimate way, not the way you are complaining about.)

It might also help if you don't call premove users cowards. It solves no problems, it just creates strife. As evidenced by this thread.

Also... Pepsi challenge? Really...?

ilikeflags
yeah, the OP has some issues with how he's addressed this "problem".  he can't figure out how to have a real conversation about things without floating to the moon and back.  any minute now he'll be in here posting music videos and typing in all caps, but i think we can move passed that for now.  premoves don't really seem to be that big an issue to me.  some people use them, especially at the end of the game; some people use premoves in the middle game and pay for it.  i rarely if ever use them and don't mind much if my opponent does.  i say keep them but if chess.com feels like the issue needs to be tackled, maybe add the option to turn premoves on or off before a challenge is created or accepted.  either way is fine with me.  it's hard for me to take 1 minute games very seriously anyway.  and i think those people who are so militantly opposed to premoves are giving the premove way too much credit.
jgl1976

Kkidplayer
jgl1976 wrote:

IF YOU USE THE PREMOVE FOR 1min RATED BULLETS We Challenge your rating:

 

The Premove is for fakes who want to have high ratings but don’t want to earn it...Take off premove for 6 months and see what happens to your rating...I bet you premove lovers will not even try it or you will give up and resort back to your cowardice tactics in a week...Come on and take this Pepsi challenge!!!


It seems that somebody has problems seeing ahead/winning...

adude23
Kkidplayer wrote:
jgl1976 wrote:

IF YOU USE THE PREMOVE FOR 1min RATED BULLETS We Challenge your rating:

 

The Premove is for fakes who want to have high ratings but don’t want to earn it...Take off premove for 6 months and see what happens to your rating...I bet you premove lovers will not even try it or you will give up and resort back to your cowardice tactics in a week...Come on and take this Pepsi challenge!!!


It seems that somebody has problems seeing ahead/winning...


Don't worry. He's just angry that he's too slow to bad remotely well, so he blames it on premove.