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The same position was reached 3 times in a row with the same player to move, resulting in a draw by repetition. It does not matter if the position was reached with a different move order.
Look at the board after Black's 36th, 38th, and 40th move. You'll see that the positions are identical.
@PhamtomMenace Thnks for answering😊😊
@mayur_2003 I am so very glad you posted your question.
@PhamtomMenace and @CongoratsUlost2me thanks to both for description and visual.
I am simply flabbergasted on how badly I misunderstood this rule. I was always under the impression that it only applied to the king, and that it was consecutive moves on both sides. IE: King and Rook each moving one square left and back right 3 times. This is always how I and those I have played with over the board have always understood it to be. I have only recently been playing online and do recall the computer suddenly show a draw, but I had just figured that I was wrong in that it doesn't have to be consecutive moves. However I played a game where I checked someone several times and he moved his King back and forth, so I stopped and started to try and get another piece out to finish. While I was doing that he just continued moving his King back and forth trying to get a draw which I do not recall happening. SO to be perfectly clear to my dull brain, the same position = one particular square, and any one particular piece. So I move a Queen from d1 to Qg4, then Q anywhere several times and then back to Qg4, then move several times again and then back to Qg4 it is a drawn game?
May 17, 2021
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bigD521 wrote:
SO to be perfectly clear to my dull brain, the same position = one particular square, and any one particular piece. So I move a Queen from d1 to Qg4, then Q anywhere several times and then back to Qg4, then move several times again and then back to Qg4 it is a drawn game?
What your opponent does matters. For a position to be considered the same, the same player has the move, the same types of pieces must occupy the same squares for both players and all possible legal moves must be the same (taking castling rights and en passant capture possibility into account).
May 18, 2021
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PhamtomMenace wrote:
The same position was reached 3 times in a row with the same player to move, resulting in a draw by repetition. It does not matter if the position was reached with a different move order.
Also keep in mind they do not have to be in a row. Clearly no pawn moves will be made, but I had a case over the board where it happened after Black's 66th, 88th, and 90th moves. White had a Bishop and a pawn. Black had 2 pawns including a protected passed and the back pawn blocked the only White pawn. I was the one with the 2 pawns (Black).
Another time, Black had pawns on a6, b5, and c4, along with a Knight. White (myself) had 2 Bishops. Again the pawns never moved, and it was the same position 3 times on moves 53, 58, and 62.
So again, they do not have to be consecutive.
However, more is required than just the same position. It must be the same player to move with the same legal options. Take the following "fake" game:
I can't understamd why this game is a draw by repetition? Check the game below:-
[Event "Vs. Computer"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2021-05-16"]
[White "mayur_2003"]
[Black "Sven"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Termination "Draw by repetition"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. Bf4 Be7 4. c4 c6 5. g3 Qb6 6. b3 Rf8 7. Nc3 Qa5 8. Qd3 a6 9. a4 b5 10. Bg2 Nh5 11. Bd2 Bb4 12. O-O Bxc3 13. Bxc3 b4 14. Bb2 c5 15. d5 d6 16. dxe6 Nc6 17. exf7+ Rxf7 18. Qe4+ Ne7 19. Qxa8 Nf4 20. Ng5 Nxe2+ 21. Kh1 Qd8 22. Nxf7 Kxf7 23. Bd5+ Nxd5 24. Qxd5+ Be6 25. Qb7+ Qd7 26. Qf3+ Kg8 27. Qxe2 a5 28. Kg1 Qe7 29. Rae1 Kf7 30. Qf3+ Kg6 31. Re3 Qf7 32. Qe4+ Bf5 33. Qe8 Qxe8 34. Rxe8 Bc2 35. Re3 Kf7 36. Rfe1 h5 37. R1e2 Bd1 38. Re1 Bc2 39. Rc1 Bg6 40. Rce1 Bc2 1/2-1/2