Should I consider this a draw?

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Akshi1102
vantangler wrote:

I guess you had to be there to understand

 

We didn't have to be there. You oversaw a defense by not taking time. He pushed his advantage and your oversight to win. You LOST. Ok. Take this as a lesson and avoid losing next time you get a similar position. Also it doesn't matter how long you played for. It also doesn't matter whether you were ahead by miles and lost on time. Just stop thinking about chess from your perspective and try to consider your opponent's and the chess community's perspective as well.

Akshi1102
vantangler wrote:

Hey all, for the record, here is an example what i would consider a fair loss.  I was obviously behind in the end, (though i tried to force a draw). 

 

 

 

You couldn't force the draw, white did not have to take on h5. Calculation is the key

 

Akshi1102
vantangler wrote:

Since your probably all wondering, I emailed FIDE to see if there is any room for such an improvement to the current chess rule standards.  I'll keep you all posted via these means on how these events unfold.  For those who remain supportive, thank you.  For those who have been challenging, thank you as well, you really made me consider and reflect before I forged ahead. I'm pretty excited to see the response!  Thank you to those who suggested that I contact FIDE direct. I didn't even know that THAT was possible!

 

Vantangler, if you want to play better, practice a lot and learn from your mistakes. As someone earlier said, don't use pretzel logic to twist a loss into a draw. You lost your focus, you lost the game. And now instead of accepting the blame you are arguing (quite wrongly) that the rules of FIDE should be changed. The rules of FIDE have been designed to be as fair as possible, and changing the rules according to your suggestion will not bias the lower rated players but conversely lower their rating further. For example, take:

 

A- rating 784

B- rating 672

C- rating 1324

 

A has a decent opening against C but loses. He gains points and is happy. Then B plays against A. Although A loses, he was leading for a long time in the middlegame and gains points. B, although being a lower rated player, is actually underrated and wins against C. Now, at the end of this tournament, A gains points he shouldn't have and gives him unnecessary arrogance. B is underrated due to his poor middlegame skills. C is overrated due to his good opening. See the problem with your logic.

cranb3rry

Guys he's a troll.. he posted the same game to the "Post your best miniatures here"-thread.

EscherehcsE

"Should I consider this a draw?"


Yes! Every game on this server should be a draw! I mean, we can't go around hurting people's feelings! Everyone's ratings should be the same! It's only fair!!!!!!!!

vantangler

Well i got my responce.  It was'nt as suportive as I would have hoped:

 

Dear Mr. XXXXXX 

While we appreciate your effort to improve the current chess rules, we cannot commit any staff to explore such a change.  We as a body do not share your view that the chess community is in the "dire state" you describe, nor see the need to have sub 1000 ELO matches peer reviewed prior to assigning a winner. 

 

We thank you for your time and passion.

 

Sincerely.

XXXXXXXX

vantangler

Is this worth petitioning?  I have got some supporters at the grass roots level, but FIDE is (as you can see) a bureaucratic mess.  I don't think the little guys would have a chance against such a massive conglomerate like FIDE.  

corvidmaster

What did you expect?

vantangler

At least some support from FIDE. maybe some encouragement to create interest or something. I think they are too busy being corporate shills to worry about progress... just like Obama.

vantangler
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Khallyx
vantangler wrote:

Well i got my responce.  It was'nt as suportive as I would have hoped:

 

Dear Mr. XXXXXX 

While we appreciate your effort to improve the current chess rules, we cannot commit any staff to explore such a change.  We as a body do not share your view that the chess community is in the "dire state" you describe, nor see the need to have sub 1000 ELO matches peer reviewed prior to assigning a winner. 

 

We thank you for your time and passion.

 

Sincerely.

XXXXXXXX

k

FT029

Rd5 was not a blunder. After Rc8+ Black has Rd8!, which saves the day. (White can't do the same by playing Qe8+, as it fails to Rxe8. X-ray attack.)

Fuxino
vantangler wrote:

I got into an argument with my opponent over this game as to whether it was a draw or not.  I was about to checkmate him and was playing better, but he found a way (by blind luck) to CM me in the last move.  I told him that i considered it a draw because of the circumstance, and he became unreasonably upset, even calling me a "noob", (ive been playing for over 15 yrs btw).  so what are your thoughts?  here is the game.. I think you will understand what i mean:

 

You blundered. You lost. End of story.

ThrillerFan

The author of the Original Post is a total clown (AND NOOB!).

 

For crying out loud, you've been playing 15 years and don't understand basic defense?  PA-LEEZ!

 

25...Qxd5 is totally winning for Black

26...Rd8 is totally winning for Black

 

25...Rxd5?! combined with 26...Rxc8?? is totally lost for Black.

 

There is no "draw" about this position, and no, I don't understand where you get such a stupid idea that it was a draw.  It was NEVER a draw!  It was won for Black until Black made two bone-head moves in a row!

 

Black deserves to lose this game!  Learn basic defense and quit the whining!

ThrillerFan
vantangler wrote:

At least some support from FIDE. maybe some encouragement to create interest or something. I think they are too busy being corporate shills to worry about progress... just like Obama.

 

Hey now you Canadian Moron!  Don't go knocking Obama!  We only have one idiot in our country, and he's 71 years old with a birthday of June 14th!

 

corvidmaster

Thriller Fan, just hit the nail on the head!!!

Akshi1102
vantangler wrote:

Well i got my responce.  It was'nt as suportive as I would have hoped:

 

What did you expect? Did you actually expect a rule change? Wow.

chuddog

I was walking down the street and saw a man passed out on the sidewalk. I went to perform CPR, but I pressed too hard on his chest, broke his ribs, and killed him. His wife got very angry and called me a "murderer", which was extremely rude. I consider myself a good Samaritan and think it should be considered that I helped him, not killed him, and he shouldn't be considered dead. What do you guys think? At the very least it should be considered a neutral act, as a compromise.

 

Also, I wrote a letter to the government (from prison) asking them to change the law and not deem it manslaughter when you're doing so well helping someone and then kill them. They weren't very supportive. I know everyone will agree with me, but they're just a heartless bureaucratic machine.

 

Thanks Trudeau.

TameLava

Thank You!

president_max

@chuddog Should have quoted the precedent with YHWH vs Adam.  Removed his rib to create Eve who brought death upon him & their progeny.  No manslaughter, no accessory to mass murder. Nothing.