Stonewall attack

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Avatar of saadazeem

I have been trying to use the stonewall opening lately, and im not sure if i have succeeded to use it correctly. Could someone look at this game and give me some feedback?



Avatar of RichColorado

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Avatar of saadazeem

Just use copy paste

 

Avatar of Optimissed

It's difficult to say, since your opponent played badly.

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1.  I'd play 4. f4 if I found myself here as after c3, black can play 4. . .. e5 and you already look meaningfully worse in a position that has no relation to what you intended.  After 4. f4, nb4 is nothing to be afraid of, though black is clearly fully equal.  Anyway, this is the thing about the stonewall.  If you play the first 3 moves you did, perhaps you keep your options open but your are playing passively enough that black has options too.  Whereas if you play f4 on 2 or 3, black plays bf5 with a perfectly fine game.  Take a look at 365chess.com's opening explorer and get an understanding of how the game goes depending on the options.  Black's excellent win % might scare you off, but I think the bigger issue you will find is that you just can't force the kind of position you are looking for.  

8. a3 serves no purpose whatsoever except weakening your queenside.  If you explain your thinking, we can explain why it was wrong.  E4 may not be very stonewall like, but black's development plan hasn't been real logical, with h5 being a wasted move.  Opening the center gives you +.4 per stockfish.  After a3, it is -.1.  0-0 was also good, and I'd accept h3 as well even if stockfish doesn't love it here.  

3. 10. gxf3 is a poor move since it makes it hard to castle on either side.  Your dark square bishop is basically a pawn at this point, whereas black exchanged off his bad bishop.  If you played nxb or qxb, you can still castle kingside and the position is roughly equal.  

4.  15. e4 was an outright blunder.  After bxf4, your position is just very unattractive (-.8).  15. ... g5 was a very bizarre move opening up black's kingside for no reason and giving you an attack on the black king.  

Anyway, your question was about how you played the Stonewall, and I think we have moved past that, so I'll stop here.  

Avatar of BronsteinPawn

Wut, lol, a correspondence game between two anonymous players? I thought that was impossible.

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Avatar of pfren

Indeed, after 4...e5 white should already worry about finding a decent way to equalize.

I even found one GM game with it, where after just six moves there was a reversed French Winawer on the board, with BLACK having an extra move for free! (...Nf6, which of course cannot be a bad thing...). White was technically lost after just ten moves.

 

 

But 4.f4 Nb4 is not terribly pleasant, either: white has to allow the d3 bishop being exchanged for a knight. 5.Nf3 Nxd3+ 6.cxd3 is about equal, but hardly an opening achievement for white.

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<<But 4.f4 Nb4 is not terribly pleasant, either: white has to allow the d3 bishop being exchanged for a knight.>>

White would play Be2.

I can never work out why Stonewall players think it's a good idea to delay f4.