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Vanessa_Martinez

Alright I have posted my game agaisnt the computer again for analysis. This game I played white and it was a bit intense considering both sides promoted and the endgame went a little unexpected. This game was almost 2 hours long  and i though i was going to beat the computer finally but this was another loss so im posting my game here for some analysis.

Incursor

Hi, I just replayed your game and thought it was neat. What got my attention was that it was a pirc defense. What you played is theoretical? i've never studied it before as white, hope to do so soon. I saw an interesting Idea on move 9. right after It castled to go g4 threatning Qd2 and if 9..f5 10.Qd2-Nf7 opening g file and to castle long to try an attack with its akward pieces. Its active king did give you a lot of problems, i think it would have been slightly better to exchange e and f pawns a couple of heavy pieces and try to press with your own pawn majority. ok hope to play you some time see ya!

Irontiger

7.Be2 looks better than the game (h3) : the knight is also forced to a strange square, but White develops.

Incursor's suggestion, that I examined also, does not convince me. I couldn't say precisely why, but in that kind of KID positions it's not very often a good idea to attack with g4 even if you castle queenside - it creates many square weaknesses.

Around move 12 the computer swindled you... If you know you are playing a computer, avoid the tactical skirmishes. I would play (after 11...f6) 12.gxf5 fxg5 13.Qxg5 Rxf5 14.Qg3 and castle queenside - if the computer can get out of that mess, he is really good.

Moves 21 to 23 : I think the not-so-subtle f4 with the idea f5 should be played.

After move 32, the endgame looks won for White. For instance 33.Rd8 Rxd8 34.Rxd8 Ba6 (all is forced) 35.Re8 and e4 falls for no compensation.

You played the endgame really passively. 48.Kh2 ? is certainly the most blatant example. (48.Rc8, or a8, or h8 ; or Kg3 ; or R1f5 or f6 ; anything, but active !)

43.f7 (?) : I don't see how Black can stop the pawn without losing a rook after 43.Ng3 (defending the knight and attacking e5).

54.a3 ?? loses the endgame without any hope. Instead 54.Ke3 should allow White to hold (but double-check that)

abo_tamem_2012

I think there is a chance to win the games at move 33 if you played Rd8! instead of Rf2 , let us analyze after RxR 34. RxR Ba6 35. Rd7. Completely wins.

waffllemaster

IMO when it plays this opening is when you have the best chance to beat it... and you did it right getting a big advantage out of the opening.

I don't understand your move 21 decentralizing the knight.  If you want to protect the pawn, b3 is fine afterwhich you have Ne4-f6 with a strong attack.

33.Re2 or 33.Rd8 seems like a trivial win in the endgame with your protected passed pawn and knight better than his bishop.  You don't seem to trust your endgame ability (?)

Then the position gets really messy, not sure when black had turned the tables on you.  In the end though the king had to go to 53.f2 and e1 to relieve the rook.  After freeing your rook you may be able to draw (or at least that's the only way to try).  Sacing the rook for the pawn has no chance of working.

waffllemaster

Wow, a 2 hour game.  You were really close, I'm sure you'll beat it in another try or 2 Smile

Vanessa_Martinez
waffllemaster wrote:

Wow, a 2 hour game.  You were really close, I'm sure you'll beat it in another try or 2

Thats the thing though every game i have with it i usually lose but every once in a while i have a good game like this and its so close but I never win and its like 2 hours wasted

Vanessa_Martinez
waffllemaster wrote:

IMO when it plays this opening is when you have the best chance to beat it... and you did it right getting a big advantage out of the opening.

I don't understand your move 21 decentralizing the knight.  If you want to protect the pawn, b3 is fine afterwhich you have Ne4-f6 with a strong attack.

33.Re2 or 33.Rd8 seems like a trivial win in the endgame with your protected passed pawn and knight better than his bishop.  You don't seem to trust your endgame ability (?)

Then the position gets really messy, not sure when black had turned the tables on you.  In the end though the king had to go to 53.f2 and e1 to relieve the rook.  After freeing your rook you may be able to draw (or at least that's the only way to try).  Sacing the rook for the pawn has no chance of working.

Trust me by that second hour i was on toes about winning but somehow i went from having 3 rooks at one point to having just my king.

Irontiger
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:
waffllemaster wrote:

IMO when it plays this opening is when you have the best chance to beat it... and you did it right getting a big advantage out of the opening.

I don't understand your move 21 decentralizing the knight.  If you want to protect the pawn, b3 is fine afterwhich you have Ne4-f6 with a strong attack.

33.Re2 or 33.Rd8 seems like a trivial win in the endgame with your protected passed pawn and knight better than his bishop.  You don't seem to trust your endgame ability (?)

Then the position gets really messy, not sure when black had turned the tables on you.  In the end though the king had to go to 53.f2 and e1 to relieve the rook.  After freeing your rook you may be able to draw (or at least that's the only way to try).  Sacing the rook for the pawn has no chance of working.

Trust me by that second hour i was on toes about winning but somehow i went from having 3 rooks at one point to having just my king.

Ok, I think your endgame needs polishing. As you could probably see in the game and as you've seen in the comments, you had an 'easily' winning endgame during 20 moves.

Natashabakshi

nice oneSmile

 

asereje
abo_tamem_2012 wrote:

I think there is a chance to win the games at move 33 if you played Rd8! instead of Rf2 , let us analyze after RxR 34. RxR Ba6 35. Rd7. Completely wins.

Wow! A great game! You dominated the whole time and yet you lost! You could have won if you had played the above move.

Vanessa_Martinez
asereje wrote:
abo_tamem_2012 wrote:

I think there is a chance to win the games at move 33 if you played Rd8! instead of Rf2 , let us analyze after RxR 34. RxR Ba6 35. Rd7. Completely wins.

Wow! A great game! You dominated the whole time and yet you lost! You could have won if you had played the above move.

missed chance then lol